From: "Teddy Gage" Received: from mail-ot1-f53.google.com ([209.85.210.53] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.0) with ESMTPS id 7199505 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Fri, 30 Nov 2018 21:06:15 +0100 Received: by mail-ot1-f53.google.com with SMTP id e12so6275618otl.5 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2018 12:19:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=ZdHjGZus8JPrsHKwfFHFHUWiJ+18qzXVLy2GWgn4Q2U=; b=RUPerf6yk45ANJgGztMI0+yH4NpOWyUwLE8wxSC4nWaaaYRPSW9rPTTPTEPypA7qHr bYzKV6xyMg/zLyzbiVWijbKwc3HsRhnEeB1kAU1SUgDmpBtbdCUPGYY2NWFg/FDHNkzB CJkHhu2as+Ujsb3oa3zVaHgSVWjlqTQXC9Ws0Od/ciOrHjBK4JawoblHG8RUQFD1YrgM Telby9XBViiknMOZGPceOw5jDy0pWgbXvfH4q+ZA0GBfbKNqi6t3I9hJRF80a19hPD4g GTQlQUY+IVi5dHU0siK3c3pPpLRZOT80DM7fIGXAvHHsQTkbANeNHBQYxi5EPFH502Et izHA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=ZdHjGZus8JPrsHKwfFHFHUWiJ+18qzXVLy2GWgn4Q2U=; b=XWHQubaDso+xYaWnR4fzb3D1ZDrpl1dXsj9ROkTA2T4uH/7Uh9/KgRge2u+7C8YUbm eD/tT8LrP1VJ97IY/Ph7vcyzBhsmGrw8OSKMXIH4jFiacvm2kbqrshQLQ+wzReuEQ1r9 E2PlttnwkjZKhscQ3/dg1V22JaYT+PzgYGA7jEQEEC4TVFYVRTnjhUwbO3Iw9tUZag5f yEaJfv/XvHKnsWTqmWGtqmueKo4VjjC4YvzRBZRi1VIEVnXiyXxMFFTdwou8p3hgou/E TMMXy+43NdDYIOpFp+mZVgKGiYqvvROXASDS7l4cfBOn0NGSr4Zvu68L22C+8Kj7Ytf9 5u+Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AA+aEWYrRZmHH0z8g1lJj7pl69vrKYHxz5uNpsIJ8GnCDN3J9gaXt1/q 6tyczDOIoW1Xolw9ltggPxVtNXCxMfVIOfVx92vZeg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AFSGD/VV6OrEUCmVIydPR4+DFtF4PPiBWI+Ox1g0MQiETztUf95RVAtfItRtoh221c0ION5ZMNc9qEqh6OMhrPRl6eA= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6830:20d6:: with SMTP id z22mr4614928otq.106.1543609173370; Fri, 30 Nov 2018 12:19:33 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2018 15:18:57 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] reluctant to commit to CC 2019 To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000736c96057be78420" --000000000000736c96057be78420 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Side note Jim - don't upgrade that Mac to Mojave, as it breaks all nVidia CUDA workflows and eGPUs . Might be time to start considering a PC, but I don't want to start THAT discussion. FWIW I'm using both 2019 packages in production because I was forced to for various clients who upgraded... because they don't know better. But I haven't had any showstopping bugs yet. Of course and obviously I have many previous versions still installed for legacy support On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 11:28 AM Jim Curtis wrote= : > Sorry for the long post. If you=E2=80=99re busy, just ignore this. Part= of it is > griping. > > I wonder how many others here are in the same boat. > > My favorite feature of Ae CC 2019, and the ONLY new feature that interest= s > me is the Mocha Plug-in. I=E2=80=99ve been using Ae 2019 just for that o= ne > feature, but doing everything else in CC 2018. Pr has one new feature on= ly > I=E2=80=99m interested in, and that=E2=80=99s the enhanced Lumetri Color = effect. The > enhanced Puppet Tool may come in handy at some point. Otherwise, meh. > > I use Pr as much as Ae. If I want to use Dynamic Link, I have to use the > same versions. IOW, I can=E2=80=99t use Ae 2018 with Pr 2019, and expect= DL to > work. I can=E2=80=99t even copy clips in Pr and paste them in Ae if the = versions > don=E2=80=99t match. > > I made a mistake by testing Pr 2019 for one =E2=80=9Csmall=E2=80=9D proje= ct for one client > for whom I=E2=80=99d done about ten videos in Pr 2018. It worked OK, but= there are > still some bugs that make me reluctant to commit to all of CC 2019. > Honestly, I can=E2=80=99t remember what they were other than Pr taking an= extremely > long time to launch before getting to the Open dialog. > > So, I got a new project that requires me to use footage from my previous > ten projects. I started it in Pr 2018. Everything was fine except when = I > needed to access footage in that Pr 2019 project. Not a show stopper. I > just had to launch the Pr 2019 project, and do an XML export of my master > Sequence and b-roll and interview select Sequences, and then import that > into Pr 2018, losing all the animated masking I did in Pr 2019 (quite a > bit). I was pleased to see some of my Lumetri Color effects were retaine= d. > > > I wish Adobe would figure out how to Save As... a previous version in Pr > as they have for Ae, or allow us to import Sequences from a later version > of Pr, or use Dynamic Link between different versions. Alas. > > Anyway=E2=80=A6 I=E2=80=99m posting to ask if anybody else has committed = to CC 2019 and > having good success with both Pr and Ae. If you=E2=80=99re experiencing = issues, > what are they? Are there workarounds? > > My biggest fear is encountering a job-killing bug that will inhibit timel= y > delivery of a paying project (see link below). > > I=E2=80=99m on Mac High Sierra with a Nvidia Titan GPU. > > Jim C. > > > Posts like this aren=E2=80=99t encouraging: > > https://forums.adobe.com/thread/2556384 > > > . > --=20 _____________________________ Teddy Gage President Shotgun Inc. 360 VR | MOGRAPH | VFX SHOTGUNPOST.COM BKLYN NY 11215 --000000000000736c96057be78420 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Side note Jim - don't upgrade that Mac to Mojave, as i= t breaks all nVidia CUDA workflows and eGPUs . Might be time to start consi= dering a PC, but I don't want to start THAT discussion. FWIW I'm us= ing both 2019 packages in production because I was forced to for various cl= ients who upgraded... because they don't know better. But I haven't= had any showstopping bugs yet. Of course and obviously I have many previou= s versions still installed for legacy support

On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 11:28 AM Jim Curtis <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wro= te:
Sorry= for the long post.=C2=A0 If you=E2=80=99re busy, just ignore this.=C2=A0 P= art of it is griping.

I wonder how many others here ar= e in the same boat. =C2=A0

My favorite feature of Ae CC 2019, and the ONLY= new feature that interests me is the Mocha Plug-in.=C2=A0 I=E2=80=99ve bee= n using Ae 2019 just for that one feature, but doing everything else in CC = 2018.=C2=A0 Pr has one new feature only I=E2=80=99m interested in, and that= =E2=80=99s the enhanced Lumetri Color effect.=C2=A0 The enhanced Puppet Too= l may come in handy at some point.=C2=A0 Otherwise, meh.

I use Pr as much as Ae.=C2=A0 If I want to use Dynamic Link, I have to use= the same versions.=C2=A0 IOW, I can=E2=80=99t use Ae 2018 with Pr 2019, an= d expect DL to work.=C2=A0 I can=E2=80=99t even copy clips in Pr and paste = them in Ae if the versions don=E2=80=99t match.

I = made a mistake by testing Pr 2019 for one =E2=80=9Csmall=E2=80=9D project f= or one client for whom I=E2=80=99d done about ten videos in Pr 2018.=C2=A0 = It worked OK, but there are still some bugs that make me reluctant to commi= t to all of CC 2019.=C2=A0 Honestly, I can=E2=80=99t remember what they wer= e other than Pr taking an extremely long time to launch before getting to t= he Open dialog.

So, I got a new project that requi= res me to use footage from my previous ten projects.=C2=A0 I started it in = Pr 2018.=C2=A0 Everything was fine except when I needed to access footage i= n that Pr 2019 project.=C2=A0 Not a show stopper.=C2=A0 I just had to launc= h the Pr 2019 project, and do an XML export of my master Sequence and b-rol= l and interview select Sequences, and then import that into Pr 2018, losing= all the animated masking I did in Pr 2019 (quite a bit).=C2=A0 I was pleas= ed to see some of my Lumetri Color effects were retained. =C2=A0
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I wish Adobe would figure out how to Save As... a previous v= ersion in Pr as they have for Ae, or allow us to import Sequences from a la= ter version of Pr, or use Dynamic Link between different versions.=C2=A0 Al= as.

Anyway=E2=80=A6 I=E2=80=99m posting to ask if = anybody else has committed to CC 2019 and having good success with both Pr = and Ae.=C2=A0 If you=E2=80=99re experiencing issues, what are they?=C2=A0 A= re there workarounds? =C2=A0

My biggest fear is en= countering a job-killing bug that will inhibit timely delivery of a paying = project (see link below).=C2=A0

I=E2=80=99m on Mac= High Sierra with a Nvidia Titan GPU.

Jim C.


Posts like this aren=E2=80=99t encouraging:

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