Communigate Pro AE-List@media-motion.tv Message 64687

Hey Jim,

Thanks for the feedback on Mocha Pro pricing. Just to clarify for list posterity: The price increase on Mocha Pro subscription option ($195 to $295 per year) happened when new Mocha Pro 2019 was released in October. This release merged 2 products (Pro + VR) and while the purchase list price stayed the same, the subscription price was increased.

So except subscription, Mocha prices have stayed the same for a few years and significant features (and workflows) have been added. I just wanted to dispel any notion that prices were increased specifically for Black Friday sale. ;)

I understand the point about being a generalist and not always needing the advanced options. Monthly subscriptions is something we have considered but generally, most users that commit to Mocha Pro end up loving it and using it more than they envisioned. It all comes done to time... if you do much roto, I'd recommend checking out the magnetic spline in Mocha Pro 2019. Similar to rotobrush but everything remains vector and has a nice approach for objects that go offscreen. You can still install and demo unwatermarked trial of Mocha Pro for 15 days.

Cheers,

Ross

PS - we plan to improve the 3D Camera Solver in an upcoming release.

On Fri, 30 Nov 2018 at 14:28, Jim Curtis <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

Ross, I was tempted to take advantage of Black Friday and buy a year subscription to your Pro plug-in, but I noticed that Boris jacked up the price from $199 from the last time I looked (around two months ago) to $295. So, now your “discount” is even higher than if I’d gotten a subscription back then.

You guys might consider monthly subscriptions. As a generalist in post, I don’t have a need for what MP does all the time; just occasionally. The perpetual license is too steep for somebody like me. Even if I bought an annual subscription, the plug would go unused for a vast majority of hours using Ae and Pr. I do a variety of work, but about half is interviews + b-roll. One client has me removing all logos that aren’t theirs. Mocha for Ae works fine for that, and even Ae and Pr animated masks do, too.

I demoed the MP plug-back when I had a need for 3D camera solving, and because of the way my client's footage was shot, I got just as good results with the Ae Solver as yours. I think my best bet is to wait until I have a need that only MP can solve, and then bite the bullet on an annual subscription - sale or not, and hope that one project pays for it.

But, I appreciate the head’s up on the sale deadline.

On Nov 30, 2018, at 10:53 AM, Ross Shain <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

Hey Jim,
I can not answer your Adobe questions... but just wanted you and others to know that the Mocha Pro 2019 plug-in will work with older versions of AE (and Premiere back to CC 2014. Most know that Mocha Pro adds some cool features not found in Mocha AE. Mocha Pro annual sale ends tonight at midnight.

Compare Mocha Pro to Mocha AE: https://borisfx.com/products/mocha-pro/#compare

Sale info: https://borisfx.com/news/black-friday-2018-up-to-50-off-all-products/

On Fri, 30 Nov 2018 at 11:28, Jim Curtis <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
Sorry for the long post. If you’re busy, just ignore this. Part of it is griping.

I wonder how many others here are in the same boat.

My favorite feature of Ae CC 2019, and the ONLY new feature that interests me is the Mocha Plug-in. I’ve been using Ae 2019 just for that one feature, but doing everything else in CC 2018. Pr has one new feature only I’m interested in, and that’s the enhanced Lumetri Color effect. The enhanced Puppet Tool may come in handy at some point. Otherwise, meh.

I use Pr as much as Ae. If I want to use Dynamic Link, I have to use the same versions. IOW, I can’t use Ae 2018 with Pr 2019, and expect DL to work. I can’t even copy clips in Pr and paste them in Ae if the versions don’t match.

I made a mistake by testing Pr 2019 for one “small” project for one client for whom I’d done about ten videos in Pr 2018. It worked OK, but there are still some bugs that make me reluctant to commit to all of CC 2019. Honestly, I can’t remember what they were other than Pr taking an extremely long time to launch before getting to the Open dialog.

So, I got a new project that requires me to use footage from my previous ten projects. I started it in Pr 2018. Everything was fine except when I needed to access footage in that Pr 2019 project. Not a show stopper. I just had to launch the Pr 2019 project, and do an XML export of my master Sequence and b-roll and interview select Sequences, and then import that into Pr 2018, losing all the animated masking I did in Pr 2019 (quite a bit). I was pleased to see some of my Lumetri Color effects were retained.

I wish Adobe would figure out how to Save As... a previous version in Pr as they have for Ae, or allow us to import Sequences from a later version of Pr, or use Dynamic Link between different versions. Alas.

Anyway… I’m posting to ask if anybody else has committed to CC 2019 and having good success with both Pr and Ae. If you’re experiencing issues, what are they? Are there workarounds?

My biggest fear is encountering a job-killing bug that will inhibit timely delivery of a paying project (see link below).

I’m on Mac High Sierra with a Nvidia Titan GPU.

Jim C.

Posts like this aren’t encouraging:

https://forums.adobe.com/thread/2556384

.

--

Ross Shain
Chief Product Officer: Mocha
+1.646.298.6458 | borisfx.com