From: "=?utf-8?Q?S=C3=B8ren_Christensen?=" Received: from lavender.maple.relay.mailchannels.net ([23.83.214.99] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.0) with ESMTPS id 7231760 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Fri, 18 Jan 2019 07:55:16 +0100 X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|soren@dslnc.com Received: from relay.mailchannels.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEEBF439CD for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2019 07:04:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a76.g.dreamhost.com (unknown [100.96.19.78]) (Authenticated sender: dreamhost) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 4F61643B79 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2019 07:04:42 +0000 (UTC) X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|soren@dslnc.com Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a76.g.dreamhost.com (pop.dreamhost.com [64.90.62.162]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/5.16.2); Fri, 18 Jan 2019 07:04:42 +0000 X-MC-Relay: Neutral X-MailChannels-SenderId: dreamhost|x-authsender|soren@dslnc.com X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: dreamhost X-Dime-Cure: 4a90dfc85cc7e9e1_1547795082610_1749568016 X-MC-Loop-Signature: 1547795082610:765594563 X-MC-Ingress-Time: 1547795082609 Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a76.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a76.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2E7B80A64 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2019 23:04:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=desilence.net; h=from :content-type:mime-version:subject:date:references:to :in-reply-to:message-id; s=desilence.net; bh=LxLl1MT47xKWLz2la/p iPPcbjqU=; b=DQEsc0sU21hzdoXbZsaNiqHPmO3+1dCpxYJMiPswBlZEVyI2DEh lBD0D9MbUSthgUh0kunQ2U7dcFgwoLkmUd9EsLkkM4cJGEi4hLaP4IOnUH3C17Vn B1OiZVZKgcnKQtj+NUrODaE8r93ByViSXoBozyNZEK9gYhOBed8SQQtg= Received: from [192.168.1.38] (unknown [80.30.67.245]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: soren@dslnc.com) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a76.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 87C1080A71 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2019 23:04:40 -0800 (PST) X-DH-BACKEND: pdx1-sub0-mail-a76 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_82B1D357-9EA3-405B-A4A4-D8017BA8F471" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) Subject: Re: [AE] Considerations for NAS Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 08:04:36 +0100 References: To: After Effects Mail List In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <515DCC85-B317-48F8-B966-61889901B9A9@desilence.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) X-VR-OUT-STATUS: OK X-VR-OUT-SCORE: -100 X-VR-OUT-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedtledrgeelgddutddtucetufdoteggodetrfdotffvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuggftfghnshhusghstghrihgsvgdpffftgfetoffjqffuvfenuceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmnecujfgurhephfgtggfuffhfvfgjkffosegrtdhmrehhtdejnecuhfhrohhmpefupphrvghnpgevhhhrihhsthgvnhhsvghnuceoshhorhgvnhesuggvshhilhgvnhgtvgdrnhgvtheqnecuffhomhgrihhnpegsrggtkhgslhgriigvrdgtohhmpdhshihnohhlohhghidrtghomhdpughslhhntgdrtghomhdpqhhnrghprdgtohhmnecukfhppeektddrfedtrdeijedrvdegheenucfrrghrrghmpehmohguvgepshhmthhppdhhvghloheplgduledvrdduieekrddurdefkegnpdhinhgvthepkedtrdeftddrieejrddvgeehpdhrvghtuhhrnhdqphgrthhhpeeprehuthhfqdekrefsrefupeevfeepueekrhgvnhgpvehhrhhishhtvghnshgvnherpecuoehsohhrvghnseguvghsihhlvghntggvrdhnvghtqedpmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpehsohhrvghnseguvghsihhlvghntggvrdhnvghtpdhnrhgtphhtthhopeetgfdqnfhishhtsehmvgguihgrqdhmohhtihhonhdrthhvnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptd --Apple-Mail=_82B1D357-9EA3-405B-A4A4-D8017BA8F471 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 The two main things that I would recommend is keeping an eye on the = brand of hard drive and capacity - depending on brand and model some series are simply better. Lower = capacity lasts longer: https://www.backblaze.com/blog/?s=3D%22hard+drive+stats%22 - if you go too big on hdd capacity rebuild times for a newly inserted = hdd could take many days which will make a raid 5 extremely vulnerable = and raid 6 too. Lately I prefer raid1 enclosures if the total available capacity doesn't = have to surpass 12-15TB =20 Best regards, S=C3=B8ren |||| D E S I L E N C E =20 |||| SOCIAL twitter facebook = instagram |||| SHOWREEL www.dslnc.com/reel |||| PHONE +34 61 555 9963=20 > On 18 Jan 2019, at 03:59, Chris Zwar wrote: >=20 > Hi all, >=20 > I=E2=80=99m looking to make my home setup a bit more professional and = at some point I will get a NAS. I retired my Drobo a few years ago but = I am guilty of cluttering my desk with a bunch of external hard drives = and I want something a bit more substantial for the future. > =20 > For those who=E2=80=99ve already bought a NAS, beyond the basic = question of brand (probably Synology or Qnap), I=E2=80=99d appreciate = any insight on features that I should consider or that might catch me = out if they=E2=80=99re not in cheaper models. >=20 > My initial thoughts are: >=20 > - at least 6 or 8 bays > - redundancy (ie RAID) > - 2 1/2=E2=80=9D bays - preferably optimised for flash drives only > - 10 gig Ethernet for future proofing > - easy to expand. Will probably start with a few drives and add more = over the years > - Mac & Windows - if that=E2=80=99s even still an issue these days > - Built in Wifi (?) >=20 > Anything else? When I bought my Drobo over 10 years ago, the main = feature was its ability to mix different drive sizes. Not sure if = that=E2=80=99s something which has spread to other brands. >=20 > I=E2=80=99d like to think I=E2=80=99ll never have to purchase another = spinning hard drive again, so the entry level FS model from Synology = looks interesting but expensive: >=20 > https://www.synology.com/en-global/products/FS1018 = >=20 > This Qnap is cheaper but with different features: >=20 > https://www.qnap.com/en-au/product/tvs-882st3 = >=20 > All advice is welcome! >=20 >=20 > -Chris >=20 --Apple-Mail=_82B1D357-9EA3-405B-A4A4-D8017BA8F471 Content-Type: multipart/related; type="text/html"; boundary="Apple-Mail=_9D542417-CBE8-4A14-BD8D-BDB062CAD14B" --Apple-Mail=_9D542417-CBE8-4A14-BD8D-BDB062CAD14B Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8


The = two main things that  I would recommend is keeping an eye on the = brand of hard drive and capacity

- depending on brand and model some series are simply better. = Lower capacity lasts longer:
https://www.backblaze.com/blog/?s=3D%22hard+drive+stats%22<= /div>

- if you go = too big on hdd capacity rebuild times for a newly inserted hdd could = take many days which will make a raid 5 extremely vulnerable and raid 6 = too.

Lately I = prefer raid1 enclosures if the total available capacity doesn't have to = surpass 12-15TB  


Best regards,
S=C3=B8ren



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On 18 Jan 2019, at 03:59, Chris Zwar <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

Hi all,

I=E2=80=99m looking to = make my home setup a bit more professional and at some point I will get = a NAS.  I retired my Drobo a few years ago but I am guilty of = cluttering my desk with a bunch of external hard drives and I want = something a bit more substantial for the future.
  
For those who=E2=80=99ve = already bought a NAS, beyond the basic question of brand (probably = Synology or Qnap), I=E2=80=99d appreciate any insight on features that I = should consider or that might catch me out if they=E2=80=99re not in = cheaper models.

My initial thoughts are:

- at least 6 or 8 bays
- redundancy (ie RAID)
- 2 1/2=E2=80=9D = bays - preferably optimised for flash drives only
- = 10 gig Ethernet for future proofing
- easy to = expand.  Will probably start with a few drives and add more over = the years
- Mac & Windows - if that=E2=80=99s = even still an issue these days
- Built in Wifi = (?)

Anything = else?  When I bought my Drobo over 10 years ago, the main feature = was its ability to mix different drive sizes.  Not sure if that=E2=80= =99s something which has spread to other brands.

I=E2=80=99d like to think I=E2=80=99ll = never have to purchase another spinning hard drive again, so the entry = level FS model from Synology looks interesting but expensive:


This Qnap is cheaper = but with different features:


All advice is = welcome!


-Chris


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