From: "Teddy Gage" Received: from mail-ot1-f49.google.com ([209.85.210.49] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.0) with ESMTPS id 7247469 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 20 Feb 2019 16:48:34 +0100 Received: by mail-ot1-f49.google.com with SMTP id c18so19365031otl.13 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2019 07:59:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=hh4uG5YUCoRb7gY6kOXYX+Fg+5sPqaDOwGizMGDe5/Q=; b=VnsSVrFvS3T5wbILqSgdAklBMKCuV6URcXxGbqhsrquoxFx3RWiInk7CbObyWUhRQ3 eHrfg/bryG6U/Xs1Blo2P+rb5R5XnSePaUzooJllRV9bwsodbwp4Vo6TEy/vyYrvFwzh uDpKuNQyqHMzu69Q70JWwN6Zl7U6ep8YqtmsBIm4mAqbHhEgsFaeB22jj9yb/G6Diqti TPSSUescnEAmhf/9oYod9UYpFmcludZzmC50QvsQhEF3U9CVa7gjCa+bQzEd4/1Vje3W 5OapLWtAFh0jR1C6jET2B6MAGkZGntvSv/SawCi1Oye+MjE+iz23hshnyoMkYuC9vp+X 3NMQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=hh4uG5YUCoRb7gY6kOXYX+Fg+5sPqaDOwGizMGDe5/Q=; b=lTre1THLQsLLyRqUvUPcgvTOfGaT4nZCt3rk/2QYS34ACkRSGe8Djl4nEen/hOH7Pq I9n5N0btG/HW+1YS9H7virC+qgsaZ7QREkSh/tmBsLMwj0vCL9md2AtVg/NbqvxVJAuu mKAascIGroNwv62XhCTM9s+2I4aeIoqdpP8DDo7EBEHmYuYEutP9UXKtQaR5yJN+n3Ra fP7q34EHU/hliqr/1udP5zAg7qD5sj0gHgOJect0K64os1HZBIKfpVvW0tGZ5UDvONZn WVhsSbhbb7uBjl7w4NxzpDI2nIxK/ck4bbudZskEi0+tSZiZeQ4syTLEBYCT+rxvtAcU Qe7g== X-Gm-Message-State: AHQUAuZRE5jN70WGO87ZRtEnGHnzUsk/cWsSTplVmdgFhCSR5/6xMEvj kxQ9GSPBu/Dz+VWYfVvghSxeUdr0/jH0+2DIqREc+g== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AHgI3IaKCgg9xhw3XDjeEmj7ROqroObLL3cVfWIjjxdelQjXUgGyHYR6um/iPVnjxV4kqO3W5ZX3csEiDDbAa/9WHE0= X-Received: by 2002:a9d:6acc:: with SMTP id m12mr10984274otq.243.1550678349790; Wed, 20 Feb 2019 07:59:09 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2019 10:58:34 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] Visually lossless codec thoughts To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000033458805825570d7" --00000000000033458805825570d7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Did you try photo-jpeg in an mov? Definitely worth a test. On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 10:48 AM Stephen van Vuuren wrote: > X264 lossless and x265 are both fails. X264 at 10-bit, AE says is 8-bit. > X265 take 10x time to render out in Media Encoder and takes an unknown ti= me > (at least 100x) to build a frame. I gave up after 11 hours =E2=80=93 ever= y other > codec was 14 to 22 minutes a frame. > > > > Adobe and x265 simply don=E2=80=99t play in my experience. > > > > *From:* After Effects Mail List > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 20, 2019 5:57 AM > *To:* After Effects Mail List > *Subject:* Re: [AE] Visually lossless codec thoughts > > > > x264 has lossless compression methods and can also be 10bit. > > AfterCodec has support for 10bit and YUV 4:4:4, not the lossless mode as > far as i can see, but a high bitrate x264 should be better than the old > simpler DCT based Prores or DNxHR at comparable bitrates > > > > Now the question is if AE will import them correctly again. > > > > https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/Encode/H.264 > > > > Robert > > > > > > Den ons. 20. feb. 2019 kl. 09.08 skrev Evan Fotis Georgoulakis < > AE-List@media-motion.tv>: > > Personally I have the opposite experience, with Prores producing about > 20% larger files than same flavor Cineform. I tried CFYUV10bit. > > On 20-Feb-19 01:07, Teddy Gage wrote: > > Chris AFAIK cineform files are even bigger than Prores at the same > > flavor. > > > +---End of message---+ > To unsubscribe send any message to > > --=20 _____________________________ Teddy Gage President Shotgun Inc. 360 VR | MOGRAPH | VFX SHOTGUNPOST.COM BKLYN NY 11215 --00000000000033458805825570d7 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Did you try photo-jpeg in an mov? Definitely worth a test.=

= On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 10:48 AM Stephen van Vuuren <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

X264 lossless and x265 are both fails. X264 at 10-bi= t, AE says is 8-bit. X265 take 10x time to render out in Media Encoder and = takes an unknown time (at least 100x) to build a frame. I gave up after 11 = hours =E2=80=93 every other codec was 14 to 22 minutes a frame.

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Adobe and x265 simply don=E2=80=99t play in my exper= ience.

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From: After Effects Mail List <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
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To: After Effects Mail List <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
Subject: Re: [AE] Visually lossless codec thoughts

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x264 has lossless compression methods and can also b= e 10bit.

AfterCodec has support for 10bit and YUV 4:4:4, not = the lossless mode as far as i can see, but a high bitrate x264 should be be= tter than the old simpler DCT based Prores or DNxHR at comparable bitrates<= u>

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Now the question is if AE will import them correctly= again.

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Robert

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Den ons. 20. feb. 2019 kl. 09.08 skrev Evan Fotis Ge= orgoulakis <AE-List@media-motion.tv>:

Personally I have the opposite experience, with Pror= es producing about
20% larger files than same flavor Cineform. I tried CFYUV10bit.

On 20-Feb-19 01:07, Teddy Gage wrote:
> Chris AFAIK cineform files are even bigger than Prores at the same > flavor.


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