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Subject: Re: [AE] Dynamic Link Best Practice
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Two things:

For me, 2018 has been the most stable for CC video apps. I think it's
better than 2017 was.

Secondly... Teddy, Master Properties <- how did I not know about this? Mind
blown!

-gl

On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 9:57 AM Adam Mercado <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
wrote:

> Jim, are you saying RenderGarden speeds up DL use? I=E2=80=99m not sure I=
 follow
> your thought on that. Also, is CC18 pretty stable/useable/efficient
> regarding DL use in your experience. If it=E2=80=99s been broken in CC19 =
then I=E2=80=99ll
> steer clear but maybe I=E2=80=99ll give CC18 another look if you reckon i=
t=E2=80=99s worth
> it
>
>
>
> Adam Mercado
> Owner & Creative Idiot
> Influxx Media Production
> 714.928.9896
>
> Moving Images. For Business
>
> > On Feb 22, 2019, at 7:58 AM, Jim Curtis <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote=
:
> >
> > I also use DL the way you describe here for my render-intensive Ae
> Comps, and for those I use RenderGarden, which renders about 4-6x faster
> than Ae alone, in my experience.
> >
> > But, for the most part for name supers and simple (fast rendering) GFX
> in Pr, I=E2=80=99ve come to depend on DL, which has gotten less stable wi=
th CC19,
> in my experience.  So much so that I=E2=80=99m sticking with CC18 for lar=
ge
> projects, and clients who give me lots of projects, and CC19 for one-offs
> from =E2=80=9Cseldom=E2=80=9D clients.  A Pr Project downgrader I found o=
n the web has
> become invaluable, after I run into road blocks in Pr CC 19.
> >
> > If I=E2=80=99m going to need a lot of Mocha, I=E2=80=99ll do those in A=
e CC19, and
> render out to import into Pr CC18.
> >
> > Teddy, you=E2=80=99re the first =E2=80=9Cadvanced user=E2=80=9D I=E2=80=
=99ve noticed who uses Essential
> Graphics.  I inherited a project from a beginner, all of whose graphics
> were VideoHive templates.  The Text Tool in Pr will continue to suck as
> long as they keep that ridiculous method of kerning that takes forever.  =
I
> don=E2=80=99t know why Adobe can=E2=80=99t make their Type tools consiste=
nt between all
> their apps.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Feb 22, 2019, at 9:19 AM, Teddy Gage <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Adam, clearly I will not get you to change your ways, but as you said,
> paying $50 / month for 5 year old software is nuts. Nothing says you have
> to abandon 2014, but I literally could not imagine working in it
> completely, with all the advancements and improvements and bug fixes sinc=
e
> then. I can't even list them there are so many. I know it's trendy to hat=
e
> on AE development since 2014 but many many features that have come down t=
he
> pipe have increased my productivity 10x. GPU accelerated effects and mast=
er
> properties alone are indispensable to my workflow now. Versioning lower
> thirds now takes minutes vs. hours. DL is much more stable than it used t=
o
> be, and much faster. But I guess if you're also on 5+ year old hardware,
> maybe you may not notice much difference.
> >>
> >> Anyway -
> >>
> >> I still don't use DL quite as intended - I use it to create the initia=
l
> comp to the appropriate length in AE, and bring in assets. Then I disable
> the DL in premiere, render out from AE and bring the clip back into
> Premiere. Rendering through Premiere with the AE engine is incredibly slo=
w,
> even with the "hack" of closing AE. If the clip is pre-rendered you're
> gonna save a ton of time. And native rendering in AE is much faster than
> through any external app (AME or pp).
> >>
> >
> >
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> >
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Two things:<div><br></div><div>For me, 2018 has been the m=
ost stable for CC video apps. I think it&#39;s better than 2017 was.</div><=
div><br></div><div>Secondly... Teddy, Master Properties &lt;- how did I not=
 know about this? Mind blown!</div><div><br></div><div>-gl</div></div><br><=
div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Feb=
 22, 2019 at 9:57 AM Adam Mercado &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:AE-List@media-motio=
n.tv">AE-List@media-motion.tv</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"=
gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(20=
4,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Jim, are you saying RenderGarden speeds up DL =
use? I=E2=80=99m not sure I follow your thought on that. Also, is CC18 pret=
ty stable/useable/efficient regarding DL use in your experience. If it=E2=
=80=99s been broken in CC19 then I=E2=80=99ll steer clear but maybe I=E2=80=
=99ll give CC18 another look if you reckon it=E2=80=99s worth it<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Adam Mercado<br>
Owner &amp; Creative Idiot<br>
Influxx Media Production <br>
714.928.9896<br>
<br>
Moving Images. For Business<br>
<br>
&gt; On Feb 22, 2019, at 7:58 AM, Jim Curtis &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:AE-List@=
media-motion.tv" target=3D"_blank">AE-List@media-motion.tv</a>&gt; wrote:<b=
r>
&gt; <br>
&gt; I also use DL the way you describe here for my render-intensive Ae Com=
ps, and for those I use RenderGarden, which renders about 4-6x faster than =
Ae alone, in my experience.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; But, for the most part for name supers and simple (fast rendering) GFX=
 in Pr, I=E2=80=99ve come to depend on DL, which has gotten less stable wit=
h CC19, in my experience.=C2=A0 So much so that I=E2=80=99m sticking with C=
C18 for large projects, and clients who give me lots of projects, and CC19 =
for one-offs from =E2=80=9Cseldom=E2=80=9D clients.=C2=A0 A Pr Project down=
grader I found on the web has become invaluable, after I run into road bloc=
ks in Pr CC 19.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; If I=E2=80=99m going to need a lot of Mocha, I=E2=80=99ll do those in =
Ae CC19, and render out to import into Pr CC18.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Teddy, you=E2=80=99re the first =E2=80=9Cadvanced user=E2=80=9D I=E2=
=80=99ve noticed who uses Essential Graphics.=C2=A0 I inherited a project f=
rom a beginner, all of whose graphics were VideoHive templates.=C2=A0 The T=
ext Tool in Pr will continue to suck as long as they keep that ridiculous m=
ethod of kerning that takes forever.=C2=A0 I don=E2=80=99t know why Adobe c=
an=E2=80=99t make their Type tools consistent between all their apps.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt; On Feb 22, 2019, at 9:19 AM, Teddy Gage &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:AE-L=
ist@media-motion.tv" target=3D"_blank">AE-List@media-motion.tv</a>&gt; wrot=
e:<br>
&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt; Adam, clearly I will not get you to change your ways, but as you s=
aid, paying $50 / month for 5 year old software is nuts. Nothing says you h=
ave to abandon 2014, but I literally could not imagine working in it comple=
tely, with all the advancements and improvements and bug fixes since then. =
I can&#39;t even list them there are so many. I know it&#39;s trendy to hat=
e on AE development since 2014 but many many features that have come down t=
he pipe have increased my productivity 10x. GPU accelerated effects and mas=
ter properties alone are indispensable to my workflow now. Versioning lower=
 thirds now takes minutes vs. hours. DL is much more stable than it used to=
 be, and much faster. But I guess if you&#39;re also on 5+ year old hardwar=
e, maybe you may not notice much difference.<br>
&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt; Anyway - <br>
&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt; I still don&#39;t use DL quite as intended - I use it to create th=
e initial comp to the appropriate length in AE, and bring in assets. Then I=
 disable the DL in premiere, render out from AE and bring the clip back int=
o Premiere. Rendering through Premiere with the AE engine is incredibly slo=
w, even with the &quot;hack&quot; of closing AE. If the clip is pre-rendere=
d you&#39;re gonna save a ton of time. And native rendering in AE is much f=
aster than through any external app (AME or pp). <br>
&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
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&gt; <br>
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