From: "Jim Curtis" <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
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Subject: Re: [AE] Dynamic Link Best Practice
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2019 11:32:34 -0600
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No, Adam.  Sorry if I was confusing.  Here=E2=80=99s my standard use of =
DL.

1. Select clips in Pr for Ae treatment and choose =E2=80=9CMake After =
Effects Composition.=E2=80=9D
2. Do my voodoo in Ae, and render using RenderGarden.
3. Import rendered files into Pr and replace the DL-ed clip in the =
originating Pr Sequence.
4. To make changes, just do them in Ae, and over-write the existing =
output file, and it updates in Pr. (Just don=E2=80=99t switch to Pr =
while it=E2=80=99s rendering, AND make sure the Pr CTI isn=E2=80=99t on =
the clip being re-rendered.)

That=E2=80=99s for Ae Comps that take a while to render.  A good example =
is when I use an Ai file from MapResources that has 20 or 30 layers of =
vectors that take a pretty long time to render.

I keep some of my DL-ed clips as DL-ed clips in Pr if they=E2=80=99re =
the kind that render quickly, such as for name keys.


Jim


> On Feb 22, 2019, at 10:57 AM, Adam Mercado <AE-List@media-motion.tv> =
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> Jim, are you saying RenderGarden speeds up DL use? I=E2=80=99m not =
sure I follow your thought on that. Also, is CC18 pretty =
stable/useable/efficient regarding DL use in your experience. If it=E2=80=99=
s been broken in CC19 then I=E2=80=99ll steer clear but maybe I=E2=80=99ll=
 give CC18 another look if you reckon it=E2=80=99s worth it
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>> On Feb 22, 2019, at 7:58 AM, Jim Curtis <AE-List@media-motion.tv> =
wrote:
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>> I also use DL the way you describe here for my render-intensive Ae =
Comps, and for those I use RenderGarden, which renders about 4-6x faster =
than Ae alone, in my experience.
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>> But, for the most part for name supers and simple (fast rendering) =
GFX in Pr, I=E2=80=99ve come to depend on DL, which has gotten less =
stable with CC19, in my experience.  So much so that I=E2=80=99m =
sticking with CC18 for large projects, and clients who give me lots of =
projects, and CC19 for one-offs from =E2=80=9Cseldom=E2=80=9D clients.  =
A Pr Project downgrader I found on the web has become invaluable, after =
I run into road blocks in Pr CC 19.
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>> If I=E2=80=99m going to need a lot of Mocha, I=E2=80=99ll do those in =
Ae CC19, and render out to import into Pr CC18.
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>> Teddy, you=E2=80=99re the first =E2=80=9Cadvanced user=E2=80=9D =
I=E2=80=99ve noticed who uses Essential Graphics.  I inherited a project =
from a beginner, all of whose graphics were VideoHive templates.  The =
Text Tool in Pr will continue to suck as long as they keep that =
ridiculous method of kerning that takes forever.  I don=E2=80=99t know =
why Adobe can=E2=80=99t make their Type tools consistent between all =
their apps.
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>>> On Feb 22, 2019, at 9:19 AM, Teddy Gage <AE-List@media-motion.tv> =
wrote:
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>>> Adam, clearly I will not get you to change your ways, but as you =
said, paying $50 / month for 5 year old software is nuts. Nothing says =
you have to abandon 2014, but I literally could not imagine working in =
it completely, with all the advancements and improvements and bug fixes =
since then. I can't even list them there are so many. I know it's trendy =
to hate on AE development since 2014 but many many features that have =
come down the pipe have increased my productivity 10x. GPU accelerated =
effects and master properties alone are indispensable to my workflow =
now. Versioning lower thirds now takes minutes vs. hours. DL is much =
more stable than it used to be, and much faster. But I guess if you're =
also on 5+ year old hardware, maybe you may not notice much difference.
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>>> I still don't use DL quite as intended - I use it to create the =
initial comp to the appropriate length in AE, and bring in assets. Then =
I disable the DL in premiere, render out from AE and bring the clip back =
into Premiere. Rendering through Premiere with the AE engine is =
incredibly slow, even with the "hack" of closing AE. If the clip is =
pre-rendered you're gonna save a ton of time. And native rendering in AE =
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