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| Ah thanks Jim. So very similar to what Teddy was talking about. Interesting you talk about name bars, as that was the thing I was hitting a wall with in my current project. A very basic name bar that renders in seconds in AE takes an eon to preview via DL in PP. I will put my CC18 UI biases aside and test the DL implementation over the weekend Thanks AM > On Feb 22, 2019, at 9:32 AM, Jim Curtis <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote: > > No, Adam. Sorry if I was confusing. Here’s my standard use of DL. > > 1. Select clips in Pr for Ae treatment and choose “Make After Effects Composition.” > 2. Do my voodoo in Ae, and render using RenderGarden. > 3. Import rendered files into Pr and replace the DL-ed clip in the originating Pr Sequence. > 4. To make changes, just do them in Ae, and over-write the existing output file, and it updates in Pr. (Just don’t switch to Pr while it’s rendering, AND make sure the Pr CTI isn’t on the clip being re-rendered.) > > That’s for Ae Comps that take a while to render. A good example is when I use an Ai file from MapResources that has 20 or 30 layers of vectors that take a pretty long time to render. > > I keep some of my DL-ed clips as DL-ed clips in Pr if they’re the kind that render quickly, such as for name keys. > > > Jim > > > > > >> On Feb 22, 2019, at 10:57 AM, Adam Mercado <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote: >> >> Jim, are you saying RenderGarden speeds up DL use? I’m not sure I follow your thought on that. Also, is CC18 pretty stable/useable/efficient regarding DL use in your experience. If it’s been broken in CC19 then I’ll steer clear but maybe I’ll give CC18 another look if you reckon it’s worth it >> >> >> >> Adam Mercado >> Owner & Creative Idiot >> Influxx Media Production >> 714.928.9896 >> >> Moving Images. For Business >> >>> On Feb 22, 2019, at 7:58 AM, Jim Curtis <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote: >>> >>> I also use DL the way you describe here for my render-intensive Ae Comps, and for those I use RenderGarden, which renders about 4-6x faster than Ae alone, in my experience. >>> >>> But, for the most part for name supers and simple (fast rendering) GFX in Pr, I’ve come to depend on DL, which has gotten less stable with CC19, in my experience. So much so that I’m sticking with CC18 for large projects, and clients who give me lots of projects, and CC19 for one-offs from “seldom” clients. A Pr Project downgrader I found on the web has become invaluable, after I run into road blocks in Pr CC 19. >>> >>> If I’m going to need a lot of Mocha, I’ll do those in Ae CC19, and render out to import into Pr CC18. >>> >>> Teddy, you’re the first “advanced user” I’ve noticed who uses Essential Graphics. I inherited a project from a beginner, all of whose graphics were VideoHive templates. The Text Tool in Pr will continue to suck as long as they keep that ridiculous method of kerning that takes forever. I don’t know why Adobe can’t make their Type tools consistent between all their apps. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Feb 22, 2019, at 9:19 AM, Teddy Gage <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote: >>>> >>>> Adam, clearly I will not get you to change your ways, but as you said, paying $50 / month for 5 year old software is nuts. Nothing says you have to abandon 2014, but I literally could not imagine working in it completely, with all the advancements and improvements and bug fixes since then. I can't even list them there are so many. I know it's trendy to hate on AE development since 2014 but many many features that have come down the pipe have increased my productivity 10x. GPU accelerated effects and master properties alone are indispensable to my workflow now. Versioning lower thirds now takes minutes vs. hours. DL is much more stable than it used to be, and much faster. But I guess if you're also on 5+ year old hardware, maybe you may not notice much difference. >>>> >>>> Anyway - >>>> >>>> I still don't use DL quite as intended - I use it to create the initial comp to the appropriate length in AE, and bring in assets. Then I disable the DL in premiere, render out from AE and bring the clip back into Premiere. Rendering through Premiere with the AE engine is incredibly slow, even with the "hack" of closing AE. If the clip is pre-rendered you're gonna save a ton of time. And native rendering in AE is much faster than through any external app (AME or pp). >>>> >>> >>> >>> +---End of message---+ >>> To unsubscribe send any message to <ae-list-off@media-motion.tv> >>> >> >> >> +---End of message---+ >> To unsubscribe send any message to <ae-list-off@media-motion.tv> > > > +---End of message---+ > To unsubscribe send any message to <ae-list-off@media-motion.tv> > |
