From: "Chris Zwar" Received: from mail-pf1-f171.google.com ([209.85.210.171] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.0) with ESMTPS id 7251184 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Tue, 26 Feb 2019 23:32:45 +0100 Received: by mail-pf1-f171.google.com with SMTP id h1so6941571pfo.7 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2019 14:43:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=chriszwar-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=from:mime-version:subject:date:references:to:in-reply-to:message-id; bh=38EESs8iWWDS+wPwusSwmXZbLg/xHgorzEjRHrR1sBU=; b=SomhYMXqy++ozeZboelg+DoF7JtMNmpj1AGcvopyWLQf3oljsWKfph/a0kJLHqfol4 X72e89KBipKadpzU2NR391brTqHhwlplv/Ix59oiQu63/gk5NcJ2ItdqAnG8Nxt0znVB Za4B7O7dYP48vj5f1B7VtjGCe6Ucu4AQrF/+lGCwcNQDqEVqnY3LpxrnSMnmvmUwwxRB C5b2wXhEO21Az1C8qeQaLAp4y7+JDHoX8PP+yC1UhsbIbjdfCuWHFbTxhj6k7BiPsf+O x8DUD5wJ+o2LeT9nZ7248p0bvRmlQXYKfaFviIw+HlU7W8e/RgeGGmAiQ4hXhbNOc86B 9cFA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:mime-version:subject:date:references:to :in-reply-to:message-id; bh=38EESs8iWWDS+wPwusSwmXZbLg/xHgorzEjRHrR1sBU=; b=AuNctadKhwHyT+E9dIrAG2XrIBLM5owUetHisPjA+ryQVTxxC7JX6st/oF/u3dWUZX 0K2J6TBKY8NxwWgKXsnjSmvrqvBgoMpc+VUaCY4rVnKJ+jzk/nTrcpUH4QU8vVTHW15e eWXdWQx/bHohW60ZujcrBOSd5UI9/HIJ/IV5Oyog+da3lZXlMwvPlMEoaVQtQ1mjzR0a GtoQ9TLjgdnMKmR+Tl+Tm4lCpSqnyvsP43aU86m9SPAilW0TUtUngX7IJA+08T8q/KrB zK+kBwuiJHf7qkFRMM/wBt8EVfzd7ExiHt5agDhosGwmNJpmMq3VzJXqjn0oqm2JbBCy EiiQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AHQUAuaze34XeCOdlKS/PC0LWqvVNb1kqPTcxpwFTJNPR47f22AIpVpK 6RtSl7XRtc42wTZ0FtGJqWzdYA+LUrP6Lg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AHgI3Ibf6jwQVhsShCdDJ+YycePBMRy2Zze196XHySY2NPi+wXU+pGOzgNyzeRjSZvFukjagQ1WW3g== X-Received: by 2002:a63:6b45:: with SMTP id g66mr17906833pgc.301.1551221014022; Tue, 26 Feb 2019 14:43:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from [192.168.0.5] ([101.164.85.130]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id c130sm16641079pfb.145.2019.02.26.14.43.32 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 26 Feb 2019 14:43:33 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_401AB471-9CEF-4699-A9B8-6D870AFE91E6" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) Subject: Re: [AE] Preferred intermediate image sequence for Ae Pipeline Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2019 09:43:29 +1100 References: To: After Effects Mail List In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <72AC0662-452C-4C8C-B619-FF00D2E5C37F@chriszwar.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) --Apple-Mail=_401AB471-9CEF-4699-A9B8-6D870AFE91E6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 For 8 bits I use Tiff or 100% JPEG (depending on alpha) but be wary of = using TIFFS with LZW for 16 bit. AFAIK After Effects is the only = application that allows LZW compression for 16 bit TIFFs, as it=E2=80=99s = not a great algorithm for 16bit images and the compressed files are = often larger than the originals. So you have a case where it takes = longer to render/read because of the compression/decompression process = and the files can be larger than they were in the first place. = Photoshop and other apps disable LZW compression for 16bit TIFFS, but AE = allows it. YMMV. > On 27 Feb 2019, at 8:57 am, Stephen van Vuuren = wrote: >=20 > DPX is fast in AE but lack of compression and no 16-bit or float = support is deal killer. TIFF LZW or EXR (half float) are superior = depending on needs. > =20 > From: After Effects Mail List =20 > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 2:26 PM > To: After Effects Mail List > Subject: [AE] Preferred intermediate image sequence for Ae Pipeline > =20 > what is your go-to intermediate image sequence for Ae? i.e render = heavy renders in Ae to save time later in the final render to = container/mp4. > =20 > I moved to DPX a few years ago (after years of futile use of PNG = sequence). but now I am thinking to shift to EXR half float in Ae. the = size of DWAB/DWAA/ZIP is very small and I see I get the same quality (I = do have to remember to use preserve RGB in interpret footage). the = render speed is almost the same. the read speed back in Ae is faster for = DPX but only slightly. --Apple-Mail=_401AB471-9CEF-4699-A9B8-6D870AFE91E6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 For = 8 bits I use Tiff or 100% JPEG (depending on alpha) but be wary of using = TIFFS with LZW for 16 bit.  AFAIK After Effects is the only = application that allows LZW compression for 16 bit TIFFs, as it=E2=80=99s = not a great algorithm for 16bit images and the compressed files are = often larger than the originals.  So you have a case where it takes = longer to render/read because of the compression/decompression process = and the files can be larger than they were in the first place. =  Photoshop and other apps disable LZW compression for 16bit TIFFS, = but AE allows it.  YMMV.


On 27 = Feb 2019, at 8:57 am, Stephen van Vuuren <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

DPX is = fast in AE but lack of compression and no 16-bit or float support is = deal killer. TIFF LZW or EXR (half float) are superior depending on = needs.
 
From: After Effects Mail List = <AE-List@media-motion.tv> 
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 = 2:26 PM
To: After Effects Mail List = <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
Subject: [AE] Preferred intermediate = image sequence for Ae Pipeline
 
what is your go-to = intermediate image sequence for Ae? i.e render heavy renders in Ae to = save time later in the final render to container/mp4.
 
I moved to DPX a few years ago (after = years of futile use of PNG sequence). but now I am thinking to shift to = EXR half float in Ae. the size of DWAB/DWAA/ZIP is very small and I see = I get the same quality (I do have to remember to use preserve RGB in = interpret footage). the render speed is almost the same. the read speed = back in Ae is faster for DPX but only = slightly.

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