From: "J Bills" Received: from [40.92.4.61] (HELO NAM02-CY1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.0) with ESMTPS id 7251739 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Thu, 28 Feb 2019 02:32:41 +0100 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=hotmail.com; s=selector1; h=From:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version:X-MS-Exchange-SenderADCheck; bh=7FSxUoScmYGcbG4n3hqhGWgjOU33wQQAi8irsF67F10=; b=jIC7NRvHWTvkZC8TQNf9tkeFTPO0Fnt9TGatR2lPYdr+H4dErEtAIzcFwqlDfmb4cC0b/KVINq3bVILUQEH9Dem/YphnM8DBqrfUTdeUvzGyE57gwuFq9nwCuXBVYEyGpuw1S8NI7i9NjGOAjV8ToML96pqx2nPAYGOD20gmbdR44T3lONE5Dtywfdjjfmn1YPZxKhyGpKuqt+oI/BQEUfL8jf8q4jFe5trbwtI6xdeMFDWFNodYip65ubUuGKd7JdVS1sfaaR0Tg36ydYwuq+7E8oFvPpe0heEdz31JlwhVmlXL9C2m+34EpAeE0fLAIgSnQGISMo4Dd1DMvIWJXg== Received: from BL2NAM02FT019.eop-nam02.prod.protection.outlook.com (10.152.76.56) by BL2NAM02HT100.eop-nam02.prod.protection.outlook.com (10.152.77.34) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA384) id 15.20.1643.11; Thu, 28 Feb 2019 01:43:32 +0000 Received: from BYAPR11MB3112.namprd11.prod.outlook.com (10.152.76.57) by BL2NAM02FT019.mail.protection.outlook.com (10.152.77.166) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA384) id 15.20.1643.11 via Frontend Transport; Thu, 28 Feb 2019 01:43:32 +0000 Received: from BYAPR11MB3112.namprd11.prod.outlook.com ([fe80::1855:efdd:8bea:8154]) by BYAPR11MB3112.namprd11.prod.outlook.com ([fe80::1855:efdd:8bea:8154%2]) with mapi id 15.20.1643.019; Thu, 28 Feb 2019 01:43:32 +0000 To: Mel Matsuoka Subject: Re: [AE] Adding handles to image sequences w/o losing existing timing? Thread-Topic: [AE] Adding handles to image sequences w/o losing existing timing? Thread-Index: AQHUzvVcFEuWQBg4VkyHGPV8P134VKX0bwXv Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2019 01:43:32 +0000 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-incomingtopheadermarker: OriginalChecksum:86EB0C46E487A1D2DBA264BAA415C61F669C232BC0E9F162996757964D363AAE;UpperCasedChecksum:5E868C870A07084EC585313E7488790BBAF5538AF67D7FD36F6546EC5AC64080;SizeAsReceived:6776;Count:44 x-ms-exchange-messagesentrepresentingtype: 1 x-tmn: [YXWRUb2+LZ1hXZZQcdJstw8Yc2tfVGjA] x-ms-publictraffictype: Email x-incomingheadercount: 44 x-eopattributedmessage: 0 x-microsoft-antispam: BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:(2390118)(7020095)(201702061078)(5061506573)(5061507331)(1603103135)(2017031320274)(2017031324274)(2017031323274)(2017031322404)(1601125500)(1603101475)(1701031045);SRVR:BL2NAM02HT100; x-ms-traffictypediagnostic: BL2NAM02HT100: x-microsoft-antispam-message-info: zbORfSy4kP+TejRr7GKgeB4z20X7NW8C8cYEWZ9x9tOtWQsrJj1/qx+qqtfjIgPp Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_BYAPR11MB3112A970D6BD61C139281F6DB9750BYAPR11MB3112namp_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: hotmail.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-RMS-PersistedConsumerOrg: 00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: 6eb91805-33ec-40cf-1817-08d69d1e2574 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-rms-persistedconsumerorg: 00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 28 Feb 2019 01:43:32.2028 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Internet X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 84df9e7f-e9f6-40af-b435-aaaaaaaaaaaa X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: BL2NAM02HT100 --_000_BYAPR11MB3112A970D6BD61C139281F6DB9750BYAPR11MB3112namp_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In apps that don't properly support metadata/timecode, one idea is to write= the timecode as the frame number. You get obscene numbers, like your comp= will start on frame 1841992. But then when you write out more padding on = either side, you just render those frames, add them in, and change the star= ting frame of your comp. Seems like all would remain intact. I'm pretty sure Resolve supports that - although admittedly it's been a whi= le since I've had to do it. Unless my logic is off... ________________________________ From: After Effects Mail List on behalf of Mel Ma= tsuoka Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 3:36 PM To: After Effects Mail List Subject: [AE] Adding handles to image sequences w/o losing existing timing? I'm in the middle of a nightmare project that I'm supposed to be doing VFX = comps for BEFORE the edit is actually locked. I transcoded the current R3D selects to DPX sequences (using DaVinci Resolv= e w/24 frames of handles), so I dont have to work with the original R3D fil= es in AE. My usual workflow is to create "source clip comps", by using the = "New Comp from Selection" feature on the selected, imported DPX sequences. = I then use this precomp as the actual "footage" that I work with, rather th= an dragging the actual clip itself directly into my comps. It appears that AE does not use embedded media timecode to reference discre= te frames, so if I add more handles to the originally imported DPX sequence= , the timing of the footage gets borked because it seems AE is just referen= cing frames by raw framecount, starting from the physical start of the medi= a. In my ideal world, I would like to be able to add handles to an image seque= nce, and then have AE automatically detect this and allow me to pull out mo= re frames on each side of the clip, without disturbing the original timing = of the clip, wherever its being used in my comps. Any tips to workaround this issue? --_000_BYAPR11MB3112A970D6BD61C139281F6DB9750BYAPR11MB3112namp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In apps that don't properly support metadata/timecode, one idea is to write= the timecode as the frame number.  You get obscene numbers, like your= comp will start on frame 1841992.  But then when you write out more p= adding on either side, you just render those frames, add them in, and change the starting frame of your comp.  See= ms like all would remain intact.

I'm pretty sure Resolve supports that - although admittedly it's been a whi= le since I've had to do it.

Unless my logic is off...
From: After Effects Mail Li= st <AE-List@media-motion.tv> on behalf of Mel Matsuoka <AE-List@me= dia-motion.tv>
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 3:36 PM
To: After Effects Mail List
Subject: [AE] Adding handles to image sequences w/o losing existing = timing?
 
I'm in the middle of a nightmare project that I'm supposed= to be doing VFX comps for BEFORE the edit is actually locked.

I transcoded the current R3D selects to DPX sequences (using DaVinci R= esolve w/24 frames of handles), so I dont have to work with the original R3= D files in AE. My usual workflow is to create "source clip comps"= , by using the "New Comp from Selection" feature on the selected, imported DPX sequences. I then use this precomp as the ac= tual "footage" that I work with, rather than dragging the actual = clip itself directly into my comps.

It appears that AE does not use embedded media timecode to reference d= iscrete frames, so if I add more handles to the originally imported DPX seq= uence, the timing of the footage gets borked because it seems AE is just re= ferencing frames by raw framecount, starting from the physical start of the media. 

In my ideal world, I would like to be able to add handles to an image = sequence, and then have AE automatically detect this and allow me to pull o= ut more frames on each side of the clip, without disturbing the original ti= ming of the clip, wherever its being used in my comps.

Any tips to workaround this issue?
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