From: "Py Fave" Received: from mail-it1-f180.google.com ([209.85.166.180] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.0) with ESMTPS id 7252828 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Sat, 02 Mar 2019 09:14:39 +0100 Received: by mail-it1-f180.google.com with SMTP id l139so507359ita.5 for ; Sat, 02 Mar 2019 00:25:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=Pu7E6mouRmtJXsPSHlBGmXqzLi4/+Y6LGJgo0zQ3nvI=; b=G9SHS8QeyMgnJW53MInmOkUbillOnbv/tyQPAVNIS8YsaLqmCUXCRAbg/5hmC/Gt9l x2hUHHSdrI20yTVC7r181EGJbKz4L/RympOHlcRL1IYCF26ciu74bxA7sJ7LQhnQbTdN flG+8vOHRHxgy0hlMrynbJOBJ+4YI0tIQTtVsoKVyJlr1mA5w2LiTiP6OTpybama1Zvc 3+vg/6fY1jZGg5MWDK3VdfzgZiPlro2tS7M4+APRkHRN4Xmr6lwIGr3YRpCKdqAYumkp FWiAhHAjeaYUUALnXvDwI11OuJpQ82eXgac+952zVo5uqmJD9c2tKO26eYhxIUbM0D4Q rddA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=Pu7E6mouRmtJXsPSHlBGmXqzLi4/+Y6LGJgo0zQ3nvI=; b=WHgIyAZByflkGFjkQrKzL/rX9atsba/Yiyb+9MAGac/FfW/caFAxTXbQvRu4JKcGO9 /vzvkJhG47RNGuNz++BL+GSMJpesOTdcs6k3LaROBTINI9lfR3fgyuB4LomJ0igb2nxQ 90JP3HVwp0aAaCcoLWom4MrGATE6rJ2xIYDTlaDJHInTaXud/J21wJJT8xKNaEvBkQMM 885AImv4RvJbuUV8Jx2OWVb7LqGQuW1y44KuZzFo3pWQRe7ZNVUJtx9XH81uW7oZ0bMY 5yoyNKQtdnSllLIQBlmsBsUyGL//0vKkhjPPIzxSBuGrh2WsmN+wjvD/tc+4USECCUwB qYYQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AHQUAubn6KG7aL0XFib7YvpXE8zNQ+rxMvysl6q3YDMe/nz+tuAtpVNj qi3IwUttXzYTk2+rGCKCLlG+Y01i7SCLZHMC2SSCkA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AHgI3IYNGj8ArorEnB4UDc6MzE9i7BXGZkMK2JrUHbPm5zV8GpvR2wIJ5d0D9PdcoKbTVKwWlWC1l4MzbG09xh5AA4I= X-Received: by 2002:a24:e50b:: with SMTP id g11mr5732080iti.14.1551515135517; Sat, 02 Mar 2019 00:25:35 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2019 09:25:23 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] Adding handles to image sequences w/o losing existing timing? To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000008428150583184420" --0000000000008428150583184420 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable but i'm not convinced it's a solution for your problem. there is a precomp to layer duration script that could be tweaked, perhaps Le sam. 2 mars 2019 =C3=A0 09:19, Py Fave a =C3= =A9crit : > why not use time remapping? > > with something in an expresssion like" value+shift value" and a global > controller? something like time-1 > > > > > Le jeu. 28 f=C3=A9vr. 2019 =C3=A0 02:44, J Bills a =C3=A9crit : > >> In apps that don't properly support metadata/timecode, one idea is to >> write the timecode as the frame number. You get obscene numbers, like y= our >> comp will start on frame 1841992. But then when you write out more padd= ing >> on either side, you just render those frames, add them in, and change th= e >> starting frame of your comp. Seems like all would remain intact. >> >> I'm pretty sure Resolve supports that - although admittedly it's been a >> while since I've had to do it. >> >> Unless my logic is off... >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* After Effects Mail List on behalf of >> Mel Matsuoka >> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 27, 2019 3:36 PM >> *To:* After Effects Mail List >> *Subject:* [AE] Adding handles to image sequences w/o losing existing >> timing? >> >> I'm in the middle of a nightmare project that I'm supposed to be doing >> VFX comps for BEFORE the edit is actually locked. >> >> I transcoded the current R3D selects to DPX sequences (using DaVinci >> Resolve w/24 frames of handles), so I dont have to work with the origina= l >> R3D files in AE. My usual workflow is to create "source clip comps", by >> using the "New Comp from Selection" feature on the selected, imported DP= X >> sequences. I then use this precomp as the actual "footage" that I work >> with, rather than dragging the actual clip itself directly into my comps= . >> >> It appears that AE does not use embedded media timecode to reference >> discrete frames, so if I add more handles to the originally imported DPX >> sequence, the timing of the footage gets borked because it seems AE is j= ust >> referencing frames by raw framecount, starting from the physical start o= f >> the media. >> >> In my ideal world, I would like to be able to add handles to an image >> sequence, and then have AE automatically detect this and allow me to pul= l >> out more frames on each side of the clip, without disturbing the origina= l >> timing of the clip, wherever its being used in my comps. >> >> Any tips to workaround this issue? >> > --0000000000008428150583184420 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
but i'm not convinced it's a solution for you= r problem.

there is a precomp to layer duration sc= ript=C2=A0 that could be tweaked, perhaps

Le=C2=A0sam. 2 mars 2019= =C3=A0=C2=A009:19, Py Fave <= AE-List@media-motion.tv> a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:
why not use time = remapping?

with something in an expresssion like&q= uot; value+shift value" and a global controller? something like time-1=




Le=C2=A0jeu. 28 f= =C3=A9vr. 2019 =C3=A0=C2=A002:44, J Bills <AE-List@media-motion.tv> a =C3=A9cri= t=C2=A0:
In apps that don't properly support metadata/timecode, one idea is to w= rite the timecode as the frame number.=C2=A0 You get obscene numbers, like = your comp will start on frame 1841992.=C2=A0 But then when you write out mo= re padding on either side, you just render those frames, add them in, and change the starting frame of your comp.=C2=A0 See= ms like all would remain intact.

I'm pretty sure Resolve supports that - although admittedly it's be= en a while since I've had to do it.

Unless my logic is off...
From: After Effects Mail List <AE-List@media-motion.tv&g= t; on behalf of Mel Matsuoka <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 3:36 PM
To: After Effects Mail List
Subject: [AE] Adding handles to image sequences w/o losing existing = timing?
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I'm in the middle of a nightmare project that I'm = supposed to be doing VFX comps for BEFORE the edit is actually locked.

I transcoded the current R3D selects to DPX sequences (using DaVinci R= esolve w/24 frames of handles), so I dont have to work with the original R3= D files in AE. My usual workflow is to create "source clip comps"= , by using the "New Comp from Selection" feature on the selected, imported DPX sequences. I then use this precomp as the ac= tual "footage" that I work with, rather than dragging the actual = clip itself directly into my comps.

It appears that AE does not use embedded media timecode to reference d= iscrete frames, so if I add more handles to the originally imported DPX seq= uence, the timing of the footage gets borked because it seems AE is just re= ferencing frames by raw framecount, starting from the physical start of the media.=C2=A0

In my ideal world, I would like to be able to add handles to an image = sequence, and then have AE automatically detect this and allow me to pull o= ut more frames on each side of the clip, without disturbing the original ti= ming of the clip, wherever its being used in my comps.

Any tips to workaround this issue?
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