From: "Robert & Jenny" Received: from mail-pg1-f172.google.com ([209.85.215.172] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.0) with ESMTPS id 7258280 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Thu, 14 Mar 2019 17:05:59 +0100 Received: by mail-pg1-f172.google.com with SMTP id k11so4299121pgb.8 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2019 09:17:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding:content-language; bh=imdK+8PHLZyXlHnD4pI07GG1ccT6LzkOzLUV3lZK0lk=; b=TQd3y+SKzhkeHQRMr4nLta5oM836yDGWGFJPjtHImbL1hV7NXQTQNX6D/jc1nJxZ1g 1j8OfM4Eo3YKowsyJnNXm9bXjjRJzEoTstvzT08MLbQwjCXWe9Zjpx1Br6Oxb4HzaPon 7Hw4pH3OTwby/B2v5vGrVng2WTlRL7bAsDzAYxt7JXPJX2uK3/nDBYiRo+772BhC0K4B 7va9MUzBNU5JM/aFdpI25YYI2gIAP3mbcH8+nVBcY5fs27hIraKca2+FJBBU/GVFkRxu WMeYWsZbsaNwWC1e4TRYnB/xyqGO8Asg5Sm5fLkTvVf95W2XFXBHZafPlCD3eNUeN3Mx LXOQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding :content-language; bh=imdK+8PHLZyXlHnD4pI07GG1ccT6LzkOzLUV3lZK0lk=; b=kUPfaUfo1jjb7nzlJ9vhonholWNP0/LNu2LalJX7nHkPWnDxsfuiQz8TsROJZt8XNs ecQUWsiWhtJQWfmpIV52AP1La9R7s+Y/zOtP6D9BV9UWvRZp/lYa0uCI96fPEVF4K+Yu 3vom4y6zCRHDNrXGA0PvKY78CjibZcZRTAv6SQX+SRuAqq5FQf8rzR5OJYurI9KvPPy0 6poL04kiBsm07OCpmoMpSPkRgLEIQZ9xR0F7cdxV0dEMc+8IpSVlw2lg/0xx4yqVehhX TqmRCdtywyCdg7Ho+/N3A/CWfYbaXhhS+9pbTHHxBrjJQDAMsEmaD9NCP5QPZ58whr1r C6eA== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVEMtmUwR89Z7LQLUv3z6cCcGYZL4Hmz7sZEOesmXOzliXSei6y IuGJWXv2KIp+TEOZYcFHTSULN/5X X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqy2nmGWIKvEGDomBwc2OZ8Edwrii39PuvzLzAI8Ql6r/zVizzXaFqjGIY0SAwlf8SXb2xs5NA== X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:b708:: with SMTP id d8mr50920952pls.322.1552580240276; Thu, 14 Mar 2019 09:17:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from [192.168.1.218] (50-39-113-28.bvtn.or.frontiernet.net. [50.39.113.28]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id l12sm30864362pgn.83.2019.03.14.09.17.19 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 14 Mar 2019 09:17:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [AE] Demo reel critique? To: After Effects Mail List References: Message-ID: Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2019 09:17:19 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.5.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US My personal nightmare is when they give you a tight deadline, no creative direction and... an unapproved script. That last one will put the nail in the coffin of most productions before they even start. Thankfully the occurrence of that scenario isn't frequent or I would start looking to join a monastery. "Ye holy order of St. Burnout" .     - Rob H On 3/14/2019 9:02 AM, Jim Curtis wrote: > This is why I charge by the hour.  The more work that clients off-load > to me, the more indecisive, ill-prepared, and lousy at communication > they are, the more money I make. > > I usually only work on bids when I know the client and how much > maintenance they are, or I’m desperate for work. > > I tell first time clients that since I don’t know about their > maintenance or work habits, my bid is 3 or 4X what I think the job > will actually take.  I tell them it’s more in their interest to get > organized and pay me by the hour. > > - > > I’m sure you know about brandsoftheworld dot com.  When I need a logo, > and the client is clueless about vectors, I will mine their web site > for PDFs, as about half the time, a vector logo is embedded in an > annual report, job app, or press release.  But, I’ve also done a fair > share of reverse engineering from a low res web banner. >