From: "Chris Zwar" Received: from mail-pf1-f179.google.com ([209.85.210.179] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.0) with ESMTPS id 7450028 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 16 Oct 2019 01:30:35 +0200 Received: by mail-pf1-f179.google.com with SMTP id q12so13462306pff.9 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 2019 16:34:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=chriszwar-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=from:mime-version:subject:date:references:to:in-reply-to:message-id; bh=V5Cf941ki1Uzdc7/OVt5a2W7TwX0sRtEsRFy3hP3XNc=; b=D+9PqgTSwEdBjBdhqK2X6j1Ixi12XHxlhjcmBPHn/gRcJKVGOpn1ALqZSZsl3fK+wE 39EVo80XkqaOC7vu/bziVKFp42seLgOjVrkBXisbiMUiE44PDcglgIMqcDZDn5U8oyiz mM3JaMHKPSg2zmMdMjhAnxnRdO7D/QFqtVoIpGFc0MBR9R3ztftxAuvw51sORERy5rN2 ebOJjsyNpZ0ECWEyIZtT1kb2uGpD7O2IZFtZ7HsFOuWoLJEz1mXFy0MowsYIvuPzuI/Z /n4xBDYNVV/UJzys9iFCSeXbyLfu9M379a/7/LIL9kbYeDLY/PNdrKh/6Bo2M8eLfSkD yILg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:mime-version:subject:date:references:to :in-reply-to:message-id; bh=V5Cf941ki1Uzdc7/OVt5a2W7TwX0sRtEsRFy3hP3XNc=; b=BewRLiOfVAIy700hR23ihc7RJwJxFrrSjMt+colkvUBkIoZKOHK0Q6E4/QA2ej9t04 p4bdjcFtt6CdF+M/0tXRd6Pr/ycgeEmqzl6/lW+4d9LfvTKRDO57fEJSbqaj2luB5l5T HzviQs2gYnxgB8quqVxbINeRqQRyh0V2oQEReJQlFWEcOGEud3jkKMuzOFEZDG8q7wJT 2CpKPc71uiUjLuIQyJB01MzVLrVFiLKnwGbdqC5hWvwxtogalCHsDADVVkMFR88svclz 1+0Nu5lUyMbL9iVWu7HGTVMBNB1BaYy/7O0MHHiINCfubXJFnarynZH7ApOlusdHgJUX HwDg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAV2MGiz8CKB6NO8+axUMP09P3dtE4L4mTZ4wTwHCuppAeqC1+NI hsEuSmLRgszlhtqmi6xs4tR9DFlDWVA= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxV/4i9YobcYjgfHlnMCgS3OuahhZZATQr7chQ28mxORMuZ7yttmKNLTycFgcbJ3jj8jL8HLw== X-Received: by 2002:a17:90a:858a:: with SMTP id m10mr1315530pjn.128.1571182469500; Tue, 15 Oct 2019 16:34:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from [192.168.1.141] ([210.8.181.146]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id q13sm385585pjq.0.2019.10.15.16.34.27 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 15 Oct 2019 16:34:28 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_1103B960-EB03-4653-A131-00899AF5F445" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) Subject: Re: [AE] HAP Support Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2019 10:34:25 +1100 References: To: After Effects Mail List In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <0A532AEB-CF98-431E-8E78-E0C2615CDF20@chriszwar.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) --Apple-Mail=_1103B960-EB03-4653-A131-00899AF5F445 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > On 16 Oct 2019, at 5:24 am, Michael Powers = wrote: > Adobe did a great disservice to its pro event user base when it = dropped AfterFX HAP support.=E2=80=9D I always feel sorry for the Adobe staff when I see comments like this. = Adobe did not drop Hap support. Apple deprecated quicktime, and hap is = a quicktime codec. So when Apple stopped quicktime codecs from working, = all 3rd party quicktime codecs - including Hap and dxf - became = unavailable. In actual fact, Adobe introduced native Hap support so you = can still render Haps. The problems here are solely to do with Apple = and not Adobe. However, like you, I just looked and I can=E2=80=99t see Hap either. = I=E2=80=99m using 16.1.2 on Windows, and I can see the Apple ProRes = options but not Hap. It=E2=80=99s not showing up on my Mac in CC 2019 = either, or CC 2018. I know that native Hap support was there at some point because I was one = of the squeaky wheels crying out for it, as I used to do a lot of events = work that needed Hap. I was very happy when it was introduced and I = used it a lot. But it does look like it=E2=80=99s disappeared=E2=80=A6? -Chris= --Apple-Mail=_1103B960-EB03-4653-A131-00899AF5F445 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
On = 16 Oct 2019, at 5:24 am, Michael Powers <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
 Adobe did a great disservice to = its pro event user base when it dropped AfterFX HAP support.=E2=80=9D

I always feel sorry for the Adobe staff when I see comments = like this.  Adobe did not drop Hap support.  Apple deprecated = quicktime, and hap is a quicktime codec.  So when Apple stopped = quicktime codecs from working, all 3rd party quicktime codecs - = including Hap and dxf - became unavailable.  In actual fact, Adobe = introduced native Hap support so you can still render Haps.  The = problems here are solely to do with Apple and not Adobe.

However, like you, I = just looked and I can=E2=80=99t see Hap either.  I=E2=80=99m using = 16.1.2 on Windows, and I can see the Apple ProRes options but not Hap. = It=E2=80=99s not showing up on my Mac in CC 2019 either, or CC = 2018.

I know = that native Hap support was there at some point because I was one of the = squeaky wheels crying out for it, as I used to do a lot of events work = that needed Hap.  I was very happy when it was introduced and I = used it a lot.

But it does look like it=E2=80=99s disappeared=E2=80=A6?
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-Chris
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