From: "Victoria Nece" Received: from mail-lf1-f53.google.com ([209.85.167.53] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.0) with ESMTPS id 7450424 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 16 Oct 2019 22:19:42 +0200 Received: by mail-lf1-f53.google.com with SMTP id u28so5774lfc.5 for ; Wed, 16 Oct 2019 13:23:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=bP4dlxOW27H0hougaX6eMxp4gSodtOBYYJblNpfDMhI=; b=hDfY7+JyHWN9J5Hy8YywtS+tL6W4A4MuAIJjR25DpSvSo7u9OlCLxoffJvnu1xcaYq GXPSz1SNi8z0SWvu7Pl4DmDdTF0DTmmeUMckVq6JbO7R+5T1b2i1Dy7ARhp/vpSO4JEr DYfF3aNTIQeYfK9KvxK32Il8dmbDsu45tP8STD/Bh+NOZZMM2OevUxuUgtoulGgTYMk7 QOn9JoP+uGKvHFcxDequeay4H7OlmC8GWGjqHer6ho/8JcFpLUYNMsGQcHE1Ule2BJwd v7K2dLsreTNP/KQZ0sDi8KctZS3JPTL4VN5MryPSmqjj6WXQ/OMLY20R2SGULjHKVnTP 7hQQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=bP4dlxOW27H0hougaX6eMxp4gSodtOBYYJblNpfDMhI=; b=Hb1Wtpx2iiX4VyMENLOdxGuEqUnoFKzbOd0j5BBcYOSXMOP5ZZLA6M2aDUghHZ8rHl +G3DaKI/nPbM9OiAYACXFkroYENmyyW8ALdwz0fYtLW7zgUiv4pQhv4BwPbThUV10Ghc udXosb1hoAXfweg52Hrk7UE1i8Cwxnvan3aQvj5t9+xpTr09ElRXFYgHER2orepvEJOy GRP0eF8g6tQ+NXXoIpp2jGMzM3TW/wvN2082bcNitQ6kOStlrKj77uljdwi2e0vkfsuC vbBuKJGObZKT/PSlUTXTbLY9XRvPRWKDtZnOb86zHT1HKjPGj/3TUpzEzkjvxRdY0hkL 1a9w== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAW4+EhiwbkgiKhypMDhhCEzZ2OFe84zUphe4MJpkB0DEqfwbR0f IyeOXrVbo1x3nJAoNuwWBFetxSzOyspr939aIRxGLoIv X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxtnBiVbZ0YanCB3z9P1JlB79b5TXSCs3QhdcgI2cSOULxdzH/tpbLbM/tOHq3TvGpgnNQrBLXFZmifn2G4Cvw= X-Received: by 2002:a19:4314:: with SMTP id q20mr420312lfa.146.1571257419796; Wed, 16 Oct 2019 13:23:39 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2019 16:23:28 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] HAP Support To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000005b97f505950ce080" --0000000000005b97f505950ce080 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ah, that's the older version. Try the new alpha: https://github.com/disguise-one/hap-encoder-adobe-cc/releases/tag/1.1.0-pre= alpha1 -- this is the one with native AE support (not AME-based). We've been working with the HAP team -- we built the native importer, and they've built the exporter, so that it's available as open source. On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 4:05 PM Michael Powers wrote: > Hi Victoria, this is the link I used from your post: > > https://github.com/disguise-one/hap-encoder-adobe-cc/releases > > HapEncoder-1.0.9-rc1-win64.exe > > > > I also tried latest standard install: > > HapQuickTimeCodec.Windows.v12.msi > > > > Chris, I am not make anyone feel bad. I am trying to get a long-standing > situation remedied. After two years, I think Adobe needs to fix it. Five > years in the future, will there still be limited HAP functionality in Ado= be > products because of a decision Apple made seven years prior? > > > > I think Adobe has made a big misstep trying to force the render queue to > AME. They should have improved After Effects=E2=80=99 render queue functi= onality > with folders. It is the best way to retain a history of a project=E2=80= =99s > workflow, render paths, and render times. > > > > > > Mike Powers > Director of Animation \ Cramer > > 781.278.2354 > mpowers@cramer.com > > https://vimeo.com/mpowers > > 3DBOXX W8920Processor 32.0 GB RAM > > Dual Xeon CPU E5-2670 0 @ 2.60GHz, 2601 Mhz, 8 Core(s), 16 Logical > Processor(s) > > Windows 10 Enterprise - 1809 > > NVIADIA Dual RTX2080TI 11GB V 419.35 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *From:* After Effects Mail List > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 15, 2019 7:34 PM > *To:* After Effects Mail List > *Subject:* Re: [AE] HAP Support > > > > > > On 16 Oct 2019, at 5:24 am, Michael Powers > wrote: > > Adobe did a great disservice to its pro event user base when it dropped > AfterFX HAP support.=E2=80=9D > > > > I always feel sorry for the Adobe staff when I see comments like this. > Adobe did not drop Hap support. Apple deprecated quicktime, and hap is a > quicktime codec. So when Apple stopped quicktime codecs from working, al= l > 3rd party quicktime codecs - including Hap and dxf - became unavailable. > In actual fact, Adobe introduced native Hap support so you can still rend= er > Haps. The problems here are solely to do with Apple and not Adobe. > > > > However, like you, I just looked and I can=E2=80=99t see Hap either. I= =E2=80=99m using > 16.1.2 on Windows, and I can see the Apple ProRes options but not Hap. It= =E2=80=99s > not showing up on my Mac in CC 2019 either, or CC 2018. > > > > I know that native Hap support was there at some point because I was one > of the squeaky wheels crying out for it, as I used to do a lot of events > work that needed Hap. I was very happy when it was introduced and I used > it a lot. > > > > But it does look like it=E2=80=99s disappeared=E2=80=A6? > > > > > > -Chris > --0000000000005b97f505950ce080 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ah, that's the older version. Try the new alpha:=C2=A0= https://github.com/disguise-one/hap-encoder-adobe-cc/rel= eases/tag/1.1.0-prealpha1=C2=A0-- this is the one with native AE suppor= t (not AME-based).

We've been working with the HAP t= eam -- we built the native importer, and they've built the exporter, so= that it's available as open source.

On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 4:05 = PM Michael Powers <AE-List@me= dia-motion.tv> wrote:

Hi Victoria, this is the link I used from your post:=

https://github.com/disguise-one/hap= -encoder-adobe-cc/releases

HapEncoder-1.0.9-rc1-win64.exe

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I also tried latest standard install:<= /p>

HapQuickTimeCodec.Windows.v12.msi

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Chris, I am not make anyone feel bad. I am trying to= get a long-standing situation remedied. After two years, I think Adobe nee= ds to fix it. Five years in the future, will there still be limited HAP fun= ctionality in Adobe products because of a decision Apple made seven years prior?

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I think Adobe has made a big misstep trying to force= the render queue to AME. They should have improved After Effects=E2=80=99 = render queue functionality with folders. It is the best way to retain a his= tory of a project=E2=80=99s workflow, render paths, and render times.

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Mike Powers=
Director of Animat= ion \ Cramer
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781.278.2354
m= powers@cramer.com

https://vimeo.com/mpowers

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Dual Xeon CPU E5-2670 = 0 @ 2.60GHz, 2601 Mhz, 8 Core(s), 16 Logical Processor(s)

Windows 10 Enterprise = - 1809

NVIADIA Dual RTX2080TI= 11GB V 419.35

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On 16 Oct 2019, at 5:24 am, Michael Powers <AE-List@media-motio= n.tv> wrote:

=C2=A0Adobe did a great disservice to its pro event = user base when it dropped AfterFX HAP support.=E2=80=9D

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I always feel sorry for the Adobe staff when I see c= omments like this.=C2=A0 Adobe did not drop Hap support.=C2=A0 Apple deprec= ated quicktime, and hap is a quicktime codec.=C2=A0 So when Apple stopped q= uicktime codecs from working, all 3rd party quicktime codecs - including Hap and dxf - became unavailable.=C2=A0 In actual fact,= Adobe introduced native Hap support so you can still render Haps.=C2=A0 Th= e problems here are solely to do with Apple and not Adobe.

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However, like you, I just looked and I can=E2=80=99t= see Hap either.=C2=A0 I=E2=80=99m using 16.1.2 on Windows, and I can see t= he Apple ProRes options but not Hap. It=E2=80=99s not showing up on my Mac = in CC 2019 either, or CC 2018.

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I know that native Hap support was there at some poi= nt because I was one of the squeaky wheels crying out for it, as I used to = do a lot of events work that needed Hap.=C2=A0 I was very happy when it was= introduced and I used it a lot.

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But it does look like it=E2=80=99s disappeared=E2=80= =A6?

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