From: "Tim Sassoon" Received: from sonic308-10.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com ([66.163.187.33] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.0) with ESMTPS id 7463033 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Fri, 08 Nov 2019 06:12:22 +0100 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=aol.com; s=a2048; t=1573189940; bh=1xLIwySk7yznrI6wDWg43qbw0/iJOGJQUIRC6+NtB9E=; h=From:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:Cc:To:References:From:Subject; b=jhqzVq741/2bRihYaZrU93ntYjiAmTFrWCdeVNhHJOWOOSwc8y2fOlBy7VlQD6BV4Tpe9OfpmV00XSIMpx1Nq+t49wCdNTHWuljEJnKx/VsX3lbMQ9m1+oSOf4DXzMYwBqaOyAlKJlkNY0MOdxLT5oMM3Gh+l+Dj1RdreRZ76Noo+BEK34BuF+zN5zhhFZgc8t4Qtsl41bmY+0ywkvNkvkFmFx5f4yPJ23+XBC0+3MlZJNfhdSW8we4owD4UHjVRJnt19ZdoJRhMc3PLxoR8EriXK/7PfzN9BxfGqJdWTRHqTsPYJYwj/VgLLlOHzK5vUfRv2BN80JS8yPrKuH9AXA== X-YMail-OSG: xYXYn2UVM1mfInHGBsTkh1kKlB814KkQu1dCSuDmuJdTO5lDNxUe1QPnxzJwwZa g67PZstv7_4g0mo9IucA9mgKK1.XRK_.UBk_Xy1q4JfbEY0d2EXBzBnlpnKmMjjt1DeLcpW3kEgB lZUzre8073BntlEXPVRi2LKHm2qSV9jbPMAfHW.1F4EKtmUPDKWp79AN9MmN2fgGWWFJ4HBrMlLy UrjJt9DAhJWwjDofWeHXgaTxMSjVGTS9kBg1V9IYHQS0gFRfaXya8sBhT.LndhuuKSLORrSU5rF9 QGHkeyUnzJOGV4pWdCXzWai9ai5X4QWWITMgkLKhotMxVCQZJ3d8E8pMIbNoXeURvt5DrVC0TLL_ 7DdAx5EbrK_90o9S.d0F.pfBAV_wWFzykXyvVLAJ7vdSopePmK8Du1ep9Of7nYseHxymJwqXb_1o V.37g8F69_Fg34oA5Kr88jUfltuo.RG9pybsLQt.ebc1_4fyRoTPkURC_cb2bJpWvCBXrsuKZvpD GlCHVXHOFRnGjwI1n_m_Hx9h7jrafmm1cJdnnj9foL_4Y3aX33lm9XrcGW9ygfCGxrauCt76j8ll eIx8kirEu9B5O_rZ3b6tfsF4I43Y5Sr_F73EIbkhMmq_zKm1.U7pXapmPITU74ur5KiK36inAJu1 _v4QsCFe_farSdfL32gPc7bqVIlLLw_5yyCL.rwO4_.UxUe71TV_hjyn0NUu_OjZBwr0o0eFfswZ LcYS3oWVvzmgZxs2LCD4zA1zw2N.n.kmCbYWPY9cb_vR1g9dcKGLgmx9IH1CIOpG1IlKjYhYJ6dx C3_L1QNMgePBmrtdTXis9ChaP5cR7rCn5zAeVaaSJwnlqGwbM5RPLrnoGTAyFy_gh5kKmvZYXX8l 5o6DnfIVFd3PRuF9VBTPQMK_oKYCqIQ5i866GfKAsMFgABCi2QidTL2x3pCnqfbD7AqgM.4yzSSk C_aVU8abI2hNQQqC.yOU9tbA7nPJ4WipxDZW2OXweZNaX2TSaW_fDJlFiDloERUhVbxVf3lw9.R0 7ESeVWgHco.5dPZxKbKf67tjAmWyU1aEjf6CgLB9gd0MheIja33RxEBLtpYxoEbfRtCDRinkAOs5 w9aG1KHGMZq_Tq2D44MsIU7YQh17qUXT0Rd5X4GxRbUZwqLxnwnEVOXgqpQUEgaTRAHNopnp4hbk f4zgXXCfCUtsD.GlSyz_mOwVTpL4jZtHiFLvE7QsLHk21ke3OC4kwvMSuw2p1IGCcytKVse2Y5HZ 5MXToHLm7fJgnT.MJGH6hb902hwx.IcntMDcDM5IuWAYIxwBBAQy1WfUIXsYmj2qUFA0zXUxmOK2 yYUAbGrCPH9Je_XktNgMYb2ESdsyFVUMIxJij300ZIsb9jatKg26IsFXxQD.V Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic308.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Fri, 8 Nov 2019 05:12:20 +0000 Received: by smtp414.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (Oath Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID b98cc0bf1c64f6754af0be5195ce8315; Fri, 08 Nov 2019 05:12:16 +0000 (UTC) Message-Id: <835C848C-1728-4726-9B69-CF6F2FF93CDB@aol.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_6ED92081-A73D-4C3A-997E-A6BDA1C0566D" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) Subject: Re: [AE] 2GB Comp Size Limit Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2019 21:12:13 -0800 In-Reply-To: Cc: Tim Sassoon To: AE List References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) Content-Length: 8546 --Apple-Mail=_6ED92081-A73D-4C3A-997E-A6BDA1C0566D Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Chris, I=E2=80=99m working substantially larger than this, but you can see it = at 12K x 12K 16-bit with even a single layer, IIRC. I can=E2=80=99t = check that right now because I=E2=80=99m signed out of CC on this = machine, and the others are busy rendering. Tim Sassoon Venice, CA > On Nov 7, 2019, at 3:54 AM, Chris Zwar = wrote: >=20 > Tim, >=20 > Just wondering what resolutions you=E2=80=99re dealing with to have = this problem in 16 bit mode? Just today I tried to open a 12K square 32 = bit EXR and got the 2GB error message, with AE saying it would take = 2.1GB to open the file. But I haven=E2=80=99t seen the problem with 16 = bit images. I have even wondered if it=E2=80=99s possible to run into = the 2GB limit with an 8 bit image=E2=80=A6 >=20 > -Chris >=20 >> On 7 Nov 2019, at 4:31 pm, Tim Sassoon > wrote: >>=20 >> To any AE product people on the list, >>=20 >> The 2GB comp RAM allocation limit is starting to become a serious = problem for After Effects. I strongly suggest that the trouble be taken = to erase this rather low limit (32-bit internals?). A lot of us work on = giant screen and multi-screen projects where AE=E2=80=99s editorial = capabilities are a critical factor (my proxies are almost 8K), but then = we might have to finish the show in Nuke or Fusion to be able to render = complete scenes in 16 or 32-bit that could otherwise be finished just = fine in AE. That=E2=80=99s my situation right now - saved as TIFF=E2=80=99= s my output frames are over 2GB each. >>=20 >> Relatedly, AE's ProRes code seems to be a mixture of =E2=80=9Cold=E2=80= =9D and =E2=80=9Cnew=E2=80=9D ProRes - I can write a 15K ProRes 4444 = file from AE just fine, but AE won=E2=80=99t read them reliably, which = was a bit of a shock to find out. Fusion 16 reads AE's movies just fine, = though. >>=20 >> On the plus side, I=E2=80=99ve been around long enough to have = complained about the original 2K limit, the 4K limit, and now the 2GB = limit :-) >>=20 >>=20 >> Tim Sassoon >> Venice, CA >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail=_6ED92081-A73D-4C3A-997E-A6BDA1C0566D Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Chris,

I=E2=80=99m working substantially larger than this, but you = can see it at 12K x 12K 16-bit with even a single layer, IIRC. I can=E2=80= =99t check that right now because I=E2=80=99m signed out of CC on this = machine, and the others are busy rendering.


Tim Sassoon
Venice, CA





On Nov 7, 2019, at 3:54 AM, Chris Zwar <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

Tim,

Just wondering what resolutions = you=E2=80=99re dealing with to have this problem in 16 bit mode? =  Just today I tried to open a 12K square 32 bit EXR and got the 2GB = error message, with AE saying it would take 2.1GB to open the file. =  But I haven=E2=80=99t seen the problem with 16 bit images.  I = have even wondered if it=E2=80=99s possible to run into the 2GB limit = with an 8 bit image=E2=80=A6

-Chris

On 7 Nov = 2019, at 4:31 pm, Tim Sassoon <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

To any AE product = people on the list,

The 2GB comp RAM allocation limit is starting to become a = serious problem for After Effects. I strongly suggest that the trouble = be taken to erase this rather low limit (32-bit internals?). A lot of us = work on giant screen and multi-screen projects where AE=E2=80=99s = editorial capabilities are a critical factor (my proxies are almost 8K), = but then we might have to finish the show in Nuke or Fusion to be able = to render complete scenes in 16 or 32-bit that could otherwise be = finished just fine in AE. That=E2=80=99s my situation right now - saved = as TIFF=E2=80=99s my output frames are over 2GB each.

Relatedly, AE's ProRes = code seems to be a mixture of =E2=80=9Cold=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9Cnew=E2=80= =9D ProRes - I can write a 15K ProRes 4444 file from AE just fine, but = AE won=E2=80=99t read them reliably, which was a bit of a shock to find = out. Fusion 16 reads AE's movies just fine, though.

On the plus side, I=E2=80=99= ve been around long enough to have complained about the original 2K = limit, the 4K limit, and now the 2GB limit :-)


Tim = Sassoon
Venice, CA







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