From: "Teddy Gage" Received: from mail-ot1-f52.google.com ([209.85.210.52] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.0) with ESMTPS id 7476597 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Mon, 09 Dec 2019 23:47:58 +0100 Received: by mail-ot1-f52.google.com with SMTP id d17so13825288otc.0 for ; Mon, 09 Dec 2019 14:47:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=u2MUVt7F1Y1djPYNs0fGEKIhJYqOA+PcX/E5ZPbviAc=; b=jCxffIobYvhBeEO9/C5TQjiScxALb9yejin9M5GXceQ9r35qegmYHGHJUHSiWbFecT iVgk4WaH9V9POKCZ2H4V4+suAIw/HeTNilXxgvBtvWYgLte16TFLfDHKLBBk3XcHdkNX dye2KBdq07yJRZqfX3Fm5jv+Nvqlw7p9RfaJyoW22+uIQx3WHrb6uhB4kUvrYoxb2hCe /RkkSS/SqEjJuiizzvAlFImugqyXoSsiAhplj5TpAr1rYnxUKgdzohNm4VzB02znNRl2 4HFGqHGEyxJby9eJj1PhX+T4rbui5WHF7CLZK4Dj/GI30oIjo0z/aOgtKhTJyF3wV8Qu eAfQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=u2MUVt7F1Y1djPYNs0fGEKIhJYqOA+PcX/E5ZPbviAc=; b=m30A8KXOBh3zAc5ZQjvndJLumbrLnQ2S29lE4q6+9YL1OK76rv9Poc1MhkcFDOXUnI C6s/im0eGHGkwm4TcVnt+3AkOcevfFYU4ueBMvrctV7gqfd3qbOrdOLVMYKygAOawhIR 8MKwaJnwkxmOcKYBwzeC8OTSszJ8VbGnbUdQ5mLmmricVyy7rjdMpCaBm+VBR0qcbrAE I6fpm3W/9Mg63qYa7RxqSYLvurnskluJIdcp/eQ39Xz2ZP2XDrapPAqH0eeymVEwabHJ HZkaqPdt7Ny6heno1WWHYWUkCslpGl6ODyLxG8COJXdZ3gQo6BYW85PWB/1YWDmtNvaj /byA== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWyz/c9n7CyvCuCAYW7kgemW3nWngegcEdE87ODt9Nz/y+dI7py MYmdP8DxiBWqNRc+sOwKpZFQAQgGSgJUIPIDkQSPHw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxWvQz2HsD7yFnsYchJF/0DfGBlThlQtp8B917NZir3Jg46/lfGF4leg+qjgzLddBKowMaX8erPHZcuUQC54D8= X-Received: by 2002:a9d:7ad9:: with SMTP id m25mr22500702otn.13.1575931676435; Mon, 09 Dec 2019 14:47:56 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2019 17:47:21 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] We can order a new MacPro tomorrow. To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000c3a92d05994d2fa2" --000000000000c3a92d05994d2fa2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I feel like I was a little harsh without explaining myself. I don't think it's actually a bad computer. There are many great things about it. But it's not really for us. Unless you need 4 simultaneous 8K outputs (you might?) and / or transcoding that many streams, it's massive overkill. Additionally, the xeon cores are great for big distributed CPU tasks like, say, rendering in Arnold, but are not good for mainly single threaded tasks like using After Effects or running a 3D software like C4D, zbrush, x-particles, etc. Most of our software still is bottle-necked by single threaded tasks. I'd much rather have 10 cores at 5.2 GHz than 24 cores at 3.0 ghz. I'd rather put the money they spent on the Ferrari-like chassis on 4x 2080ti GPUs instead. And so on. If I was running a straight edit facility with a ton of footage throughput and was transcoding / streaming 24/7 the mac pro would make sense. But your average rich hobbyist, small shop or freelancer isn't going to utilize 1/10 of this machine and you're paying for the wrong stuff. On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 5:22 PM Terry Wieser wrote: > I paid the big bucks and waited almost a year for the first Trash Can Pro > only to find a top of the line iMac was pretty fast and much more reliable. > I will be waiting to see what the early adopters think about the speed and > reliability vs. their money. > +---End of message---+ > To unsubscribe send any message to > -- _____________________________ Teddy Gage President Shotgun Inc. 360 VR | MOGRAPH | VFX SHOTGUNPOST.COM BKLYN NY 11215 --000000000000c3a92d05994d2fa2 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I feel like I was a little harsh without explaining myself= . I don't think it's actually a bad computer. There are many great = things about it. But it's not really for us. Unless you need 4 simultan= eous 8K outputs (you might?) and / or transcoding that many streams, it'= ;s massive overkill. Additionally, the xeon cores are great for big distrib= uted CPU tasks like, say, rendering in Arnold, but are not good for mainly = single threaded tasks like using After Effects or running a 3D software lik= e C4D, zbrush, x-particles, etc. Most of our software still is bottle-necke= d by single threaded tasks. I'd much rather have 10 cores at 5.2 GHz th= an 24 cores at 3.0 ghz. I'd rather put the money they spent on the Ferr= ari-like chassis on 4x 2080ti GPUs instead. And so on. If I was running a s= traight edit facility with a ton of footage throughput and was transcoding = / streaming 24/7 the mac pro would make sense. But your average rich hobbyi= st, small shop or freelancer isn't going to utilize 1/10 of this machin= e and you're paying for the wrong stuff.

On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 5:22 PM = Terry Wieser <AE-List@media-m= otion.tv> wrote:
I paid the big bucks and waited almost a year for the first Trash C= an Pro only to find a top of the line iMac was pretty fast and much more re= liable.
I will be waiting to see what the early adopters think about the speed and = reliability vs. their money.
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