From: Received: from sonic307-8.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com ([98.137.64.32] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.0) with ESMTPS id 7476623 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Tue, 10 Dec 2019 00:19:34 +0100 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=aol.com; s=a2048; t=1575933572; bh=PNlBFrCAXZYXCAfrP4l+29sMsHAbP4tJkPCXq0pDghA=; h=Date:From:To:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:From:Subject; b=Qc2fdzHdxyIFPT+lRl+0CyIjMqe93Mo0i1cJpnAlH4TQtvLSiSiSrAR/hCQdDKscg/z7rQZqmTIfPv6+8pI/d72yxcZFNaVEEAsElJMbH18BNzZhgwuJWK1qlVO2Z9net7WGLMjB9/H4sZuZMYb939IJWnZgBDlK4K9C6sN1db9Vc5gm4hB7ur9OjWz9wOOvT0iABB1bhv0bxHKATORnjwdmq1rGhfpiYsCkGI9eaJlozHS2LWq499Mukk1V3JTiiiG2ICzYP2YRG6X+WinB132W+fl4gyIQvem6z6B8aHU2Em6wb/flG5kBZTY7FEmqmegMG3lcoeGKJDqQBFOQWg== X-YMail-OSG: vCco8.cVM1n2NnMsO7MaEAFkap0J9wiVsp9L.LlqhC.M4xbjwWVsi9s6TGYp3fm QVGm3U934ALC5wVeWteQhKHXw720UliU5VWtxUvHVy9Ubgi5FhTUCMYYCWnfuTHX_E4rjJGThGp2 IJx49pxXMiMtU8SVO_1s_JrsDGEt_5coGoo66CqoUhSUCNpW3A0UiEPWEo5shIZJ2k_jXpnIL0Mq 1NpcH2RE86tXtC0vpsxhRUJmPy3GP9DP3SqVuNg.9dimBZp.qvZe4cbeG_chiZ8AY1S7LiAkk8rT hHYh3QCLtBwKfvAW8ocPMVDoeEOVqdfC9wBLYbFTlOg8IW2BYxgzN55cVRHyOnEKo2IGHWWHAMn1 5CulTRUMPX8SyEHbjaO1iLIe39N9Yh09pzGotvUZavsLn00rUGQJnpBmxZpkPooB4.9opwQ_nsGc a0DLHofA8.A3B4vV1rLoOM7fiRDXF6uaXcP07tE.CrFP6nmgEntpjx4Wj69P7BZlLX6KsYHUZY0a p7wUGH2VEKcKc4C6lX5FT6DEI2HLA.gYTCAaBfALrdh4x57XM8LhCjvtzpxcGYopHPqRWNOM0lt3 d8ftuidb0SMngu1zu9kisNFBvUJFqIFEmPdxgKVol9YNuLvpEuHYllECwtwiDGejPcvFbIena1.G xtRKTZfGbIW4uO.Gpm0TO2YE2NkPfoltEeVJHozdMJbLg1lTGOADEsQTItB_sp8qBe.7XXoYzKQp H3dQkPJZqvZ1..EfHb_UvH2tSQ0PSWRaOTV1XPFCchFRBXHZRWcKuAeljUL94mG.u7EwpaxFvyao 4XAuO11pC1TWZtbvIRrgO_jKp.cVePp69Bp6aU9dzzaBMmfRVQxEKU7LSSkr8lKpvkrH7.oz.zxF 6uNxY3NG7q3Cryl7Dw7b9aypNkVycTyQ56cZiAj8qaKNdsveM4zM884nLnWXRw8lVOuCCRv4bJQv Z2CYvrD_mzViAPFIiiMmbzo3YwCzreeQ0P9Q1pc6JDPp94yjYSrq4ug.V7fr7HWH8efGjrGWtKiP 3X0mMtA3LmHVN8pVDfz3pmo.vWpOIdmYNZL5_koI3VFYT.1rPhzMRdl0ONhDTI4MhNmvx7ilDocW RCRP.bj71HHf986rdzBZrQoOV9VJxsCgVaL_JWEIz54p1DspVnznvyIBHDSV7usoLfGmvWLMlvfI UaQGwhQNOnDq6HAGKGgpEq0KzftbVz1y4hDpVh_vJBI5OQ_FvmjrcL1TKMaW0qmsx7L5tSI7WyOE BUzrZkJDhuAyjy1BLQFpn8FhxPya2azW0gMx4sCqHPVjOhw5n50ydxjG4ro09UxRONw-- Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic307.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Mon, 9 Dec 2019 23:19:32 +0000 Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2019 23:19:30 +0000 (UTC) To: AE-List@media-motion.tv Message-ID: <65453197.6014905.1575933570093@mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [AE] We can order a new MacPro tomorrow. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_6014904_1186833386.1575933570091" X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.14728 aolwebmail Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_12_6) AppleWebKit/605.1.15 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/12.1.2 Safari/605.1.15 Content-Length: 6127 ------=_Part_6014904_1186833386.1575933570091 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Good points -----Original Message----- From: Teddy Gage To: After Effects Mail List Sent: Mon, Dec 9, 2019 5:48 pm Subject: Re: [AE] We can order a new MacPro tomorrow. I feel like I was a little harsh without explaining myself. I don't think i= t's actually a bad computer. There are many great things about it. But it's= not really for us. Unless you need 4 simultaneous 8K outputs (you might?) = and / or transcoding that many streams, it's massive overkill. Additionally= , the xeon cores are great for big distributed CPU tasks like, say, renderi= ng in Arnold, but are not good for mainly single threaded tasks like using = After Effects or running a 3D software like C4D, zbrush, x-particles, etc. = Most of our software still is bottle-necked by single threaded tasks. I'd m= uch rather have 10 cores at 5.2 GHz than 24 cores at 3.0 ghz. I'd rather pu= t the money they spent on the Ferrari-like chassis on 4x 2080ti GPUs instea= d. And so on. If I was running a straight edit facility with a ton of foota= ge throughput and was transcoding / streaming 24/7 the mac pro would make s= ense. But your average rich hobbyist, small shop or freelancer isn't going = to utilize 1/10 of this machine and you're paying for the wrong stuff. On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 5:22 PM Terry Wieser wrote= : I paid the big bucks and waited almost a year for the first Trash Can Pro o= nly to find a top of the line iMac was pretty fast and much more reliable. I will be waiting to see what the early adopters think about the speed and = reliability vs. their money. +---End of message---+ To unsubscribe send any message to --=20 _____________________________Teddy GagePresidentShotgun Inc.360 VR | MOGRAP= H | VFXSHOTGUNPOST.COMBKLYN NY 11215 ------=_Part_6014904_1186833386.1575933570091 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Good points


-----= Original Message-----
From: Teddy Gage <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
To: After Effects Mail List <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
Sent: Mon, Dec 9, 2019 5:48 pm
Subject: Re: [AE] We can order a new MacPro tomorrow.

I feel like I was a little harsh without explaining myself= . I don't think it's actually a bad computer. There are many great things a= bout it. But it's not really for us. Unless you need 4 simultaneous 8K outp= uts (you might?) and / or transcoding that many streams, it's massive overk= ill. Additionally, the xeon cores are great for big distributed CPU tasks l= ike, say, rendering in Arnold, but are not good for mainly single threaded = tasks like using After Effects or running a 3D software like C4D, zbrush, x= -particles, etc. Most of our software still is bottle-necked by single thre= aded tasks. I'd much rather have 10 cores at 5.2 GHz than 24 cores at 3.0 g= hz. I'd rather put the money they spent on the Ferrari-like chassis on 4x 2= 080ti GPUs instead. And so on. If I was running a straight edit facility wi= th a ton of footage throughput and was transcoding / streaming 24/7 the mac= pro would make sense. But your average rich hobbyist, small shop or freela= ncer isn't going to utilize 1/10 of this machine and you're paying for the = wrong stuff.

On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 5= :22 PM Terry Wieser <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
I paid the = big bucks and waited almost a year for the first Trash Can Pro only to find= a top of the line iMac was pretty fast and much more reliable.
I will be waiting to see what the early adopters think about the speed and = reliability vs. their money.
+---End of message---+
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