From: "Timothy Sassoon" Received: from mail-pf1-f170.google.com ([209.85.210.170] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.0) with ESMTPS id 7476634 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Tue, 10 Dec 2019 01:52:21 +0100 Received: by mail-pf1-f170.google.com with SMTP id s18so8122441pfd.8 for ; Mon, 09 Dec 2019 16:52:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:message-id:mime-version:subject:date:in-reply-to:cc:to :references; bh=Zcaj/O38BRQR3kbybuYnfFwmjOohlAckimGMj0uDcOc=; b=laq3NdIplkRF6hwQecsqkFVk+7B63l/11C0vXY2WGbZl3GYsyZUfpLGhCeUE7dnRcc lZDR5ZDyKkK88M2iT/ytAEt9nFEfumR7KggVPPSj0jHwosgGW5mP3M2IST1Df8z97u4+ m6yn0MlLuXHE+9/jmWPowaQg/MCzaNxRY05LbzLMUYbh4bL83JTmv0oOfUmjjNbktSb3 /h1SEFUeh68gn56LZABKYk1ho0sgoRNM2gWzAKYb4FKC4CnHa+c30kE8FS70JIlsddUT 5V2eJ/M/eX/4kMNZsWv6tt66rg1Rx09qmRfiQy/rVn9WeNS04MHem0cFQ0QuvvrveBMz FXMQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:message-id:mime-version:subject:date :in-reply-to:cc:to:references; bh=Zcaj/O38BRQR3kbybuYnfFwmjOohlAckimGMj0uDcOc=; b=kA9C9Sg1VldI2PBcgdLQKQsYRpJS3IDln7As/JoqyrDC+z35WAVMxo0OCB2dYHC7lb 4o67J56LD0zyCvYikKHmoNcucc+OhBe4lkiCQD42FNKWWO6aA/TabaRNaVPjoCjBq8Lp 0AQjckxCGwXEz16YouQmPSqSPirmMA4B4WiDndTPrck+glNuaAooI0sePQgFq0LN3HR1 vPgm7zQD4RLWWC0d78b7bh/1f1CeTT+0D5IETwz7Yg+oG0H0OeaiD5HHbtCqiHi4exQO MZIft21m1H/bztYlFYpAO3a/P7H3jOtQ4fbJfH2VrzHi8ueVDfx7ELq0fBRwfLVPqJYq oqqg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWiQtZ3w7ag4I0iFkF3EGBmtDs6EMdCGiFCoBiAzIuyUEc5wwtt u3bXz2ORDw0dydV6mcUUOQ11zE2ZNAA= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyrDuD4kZvvmqcx3didYRRomkpuHgiWELIb8UM4LSH81pwsICFeK+ZTrM8m30+YXQtaqHnI1g== X-Received: by 2002:a62:3141:: with SMTP id x62mr32968024pfx.214.1575939139527; Mon, 09 Dec 2019 16:52:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from ?IPv6:2605:e000:1520:dfc:a482:bb78:ef75:a74a? ([2605:e000:1520:dfc:a482:bb78:ef75:a74a]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id j1sm631554pff.107.2019.12.09.16.52.17 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 09 Dec 2019 16:52:19 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_FFFB6B2F-602D-423C-9A2E-8070878AE550" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.11\)) Subject: Re: [AE] We can order a new MacPro tomorrow. Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2019 16:52:15 -0800 In-Reply-To: Cc: "Timothy J. F. Sassoon" To: AE List References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) --Apple-Mail=_FFFB6B2F-602D-423C-9A2E-8070878AE550 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 The important thing to consider, cost-wise, is the TCO - Total Cost of = Ownership. Apple computers may have a higher initial cost than a = =E2=80=9Cwhite box=E2=80=9D machine, but especially if they were top = spec to begin with, their resale value usually makes up and more for the = cost differential. For example, I expect to get 60% of retail for a 2yo = machine still under AppleCare. But even if I keep it - I=E2=80=99m in = the process of retiring a 2012 MBP that=E2=80=99s still quite usable, = mainly because the projects I=E2=80=99m doing now require the 64GB of = RAM and top GPU in my new 16=E2=80=9D MBP. That=E2=80=99s a 7yo machine, = still turning out shots. I don=E2=80=99t think it owes me anything. I=E2=80=99m looking on eBay at prices for used Dell and HP laptops. = Pretty sad, though I guess one could make the point that one gets to = keep the price difference right away rather than getting it back on = resale. Tim Sassoon SFD Venice, CA > On Dec 9, 2019, at 4:38 PM, Gary Reisman = wrote: >=20 > Some people to have no problems buying new $40k+ European cars that = drop $10k in value in a few years, just to drive to and from work most = of the time a few hours out of the week, when they could easily spend = half on a decent domestic or Japanese import - some of which perform = nearly the same. --Apple-Mail=_FFFB6B2F-602D-423C-9A2E-8070878AE550 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
The important thing to consider, cost-wise, is the TCO - = Total Cost of Ownership. Apple computers may have a higher initial cost = than a =E2=80=9Cwhite box=E2=80=9D machine, but especially if they were = top spec to begin with, their resale value usually makes up and more for = the cost differential. For example, I expect to get 60% of retail for a = 2yo machine still under AppleCare. But even if I keep it - I=E2=80=99m = in the process of retiring a 2012 MBP that=E2=80=99s still quite usable, = mainly because the projects I=E2=80=99m doing now require the 64GB of = RAM and top GPU in my new 16=E2=80=9D MBP. That=E2=80=99s a 7yo machine, = still turning out shots. I don=E2=80=99t think it owes me = anything.

I=E2=80= =99m looking on eBay at prices for used Dell and HP laptops. Pretty sad, = though I guess one could make the point that one gets to keep the price = difference right away rather than getting it back on resale.



Tim Sassoon
SFD
Venice, CA



On Dec 9, 2019, at 4:38 PM, Gary Reisman <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

Some people to have no problems = buying new $40k+ European cars that drop $10k in value in a few years, =  just to drive to and from work most of the time a few hours out of = the week,  when they could easily spend half on a decent domestic = or Japanese import - some of which perform nearly the = same.

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