From: "Nathan Shipley" Received: from mail-io1-f47.google.com ([209.85.166.47] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.0) with ESMTPS id 7476735 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Tue, 10 Dec 2019 17:44:39 +0100 Received: by mail-io1-f47.google.com with SMTP id x1so19487333iop.7 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2019 08:44:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=szUxNzGwmdxQolycRNdL9pYZAXup4CmA2WMBUWzKp/M=; b=XpCChw5yKdrpgm4fax3/061RPO/pTdbUO/41bDzv+sblOzLn+4m8p+ACSQ2I3etESj wpMekULqO+McIdYza1OdgcxC7c3Y9XZGQQlTXY44eGI1qt1/zEYZBjC5dA/nwDtD/TPA rQF78G+3cvBQtesek6mXTV7fMbQu8h0FIbe1dlChQzCCMHUDH8fdNZqnZmIgtm2iLZs5 l66ouns/os+5KnBY7nflenI0/SgeoHKZqOOTde1HXOAn2UvB8TMa23chI8ungytOg9ct 9lm7s5XyIqQxZGzBdEsL2pRTo7XQMUdo0HXKl9yXkGMq1x8lUIEIwd86D6pHu+r4MdNX 4zDw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=szUxNzGwmdxQolycRNdL9pYZAXup4CmA2WMBUWzKp/M=; b=LrPhL4sZcMzn9oUnqcTC8luE+Z7HNLOHx4qLtjcW6ZeKH0xuXvxrdAfeeNKE+ip+Ku z+KmLYenWKxsVbA6uf5Ki6QaeQPCEVSx0tj28ofg3XFHMX1X5TrHv+ocko6CFjXyFVs2 hKg8Wl8iCMZeXkBVQnTHmrwV4BLx0atM5z1fYUpWekZDDaex26u4cu/GQvrNQrD8ryWa 8iKrwjAeQGH8D+BLv8i+qdhyY1Yed6/R8EzTj/LlG2WbDg+cwhgf4/kiQKJQ/TXxJ0KM WQ2KSa1tK1SjZtGv4aFAEUxojLptxJzjLRgpCYLWKc18BbLfSBTMryYmu1GBK5550Yea OQSQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUAP5f1bSyj84Exe1WknsXOuIcBP0K8OiuBjU7Jidtcq5JtGhEo sRlBF5f1Z/ESNmPzuT1SZjyr5PLU1WUAUAliPhoDUHUU X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyoC/v8ZsCGvCu68xMATWKndGP5uw2p6vbKYSeJ9VP1DYOgjJTqnjejlr3gePnQph/RquPJmqchYRlMX9pOOL4= X-Received: by 2002:a5d:89d1:: with SMTP id a17mr25972599iot.101.1575996277966; Tue, 10 Dec 2019 08:44:37 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2019 08:44:26 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] We can order a new MacPro tomorrow. To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000050cd6a05995c3aa6" --00000000000050cd6a05995c3aa6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dennis said: "As far as the new Mac Pro goes, I=E2=80=99m withholding judg= ment until I see how Redshift, Octane and Unity work in their Metal incarnations on the new machines." This is totally where our motion department is right now. We're running propped up cheesegraters with 1080 cards in them, would probably all prefer to use OSX if we could, but it's going to come down to support for the software we need to use. Which, in addition to AE, is C4D, Octane, Redshift, Houdini, and a little bit of Nuke and Maya/Arnold. >From the day of the announcement, I was worried about them not having Nvidia cards and how that is going to play out with a bunch of software companies that have larger user bases on Windows/Nvidia to support. We actually have the budget to spend a bunch of money on computers but its just feeling so hard to justify the Mac Pro for reasons in addition to price. Very curious to see what the price differential for comparable hardware ends up being. It's not even a question which way I'd go if it was my own money. This has been a good discussion to read. Thank y'all, - Nathan On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 8:35 AM Mike Abbott wrote= : > > On 10/12/2019 15:55, Stephen van Vuuren wrote: > > Windows OS will never be Mac OS and vice versa. But you can get 99% of > either on either. I move back and forth between both every day... > > > The other life saving application on Windows: Directory Opus: > https://www.gpsoft.com.au/ > > Think of it as Windows Explorer with a PhD. > > > Mike > --00000000000050cd6a05995c3aa6 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dennis said:=C2=A0 "As far as the new Mac Pro goes, I= =E2=80=99m withholding judgment until I see how Redshift, Octane and Unity = work in their Metal incarnations on the new machines."

<= div>This is totally where our motion department is right now.=C2=A0 We'= re running propped up cheesegraters with 1080 cards in them, would probably= all prefer to use OSX if we could, but it's going to come down to supp= ort for the software we need to use.=C2=A0 Which, in addition to AE, is C4D= , Octane, Redshift, Houdini, and a little bit of Nuke and Maya/Arnold.

From the day of the announcement, I was worried about = them not having Nvidia cards and how that is going to play out with a bunch= of software companies=C2=A0that have larger user bases on Windows/Nvidia t= o support.

We actually have the budget to spend a = bunch of money on computers but its just feeling so hard to justify the Mac= Pro for reasons in addition to price.=C2=A0 Very curious to see what the p= rice differential for comparable hardware ends up being.=C2=A0 It's not= even a question which way I'd go if it was my own money.
This has been a good discussion to read.=C2=A0 Thank y'all,=
=C2=A0- Nathan

On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 8:35 AM Mike Abbott = <AE-List@media-motion.tv&= gt; wrote:
=20 =20 =20


On 10/12/2019 15:55, Stephen van Vuuren wrote:
=20 =20 =20
Windows OS will never be Mac OS and vice versa. But you can get 99% of either on either.=C2=A0 I move back a= nd forth between both every day...


The other life saving application on Windows: Directory Opus: https://www.gpsoft.com.a= u/

Think of it as Windows Explorer with a PhD.


Mike

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