From: "Nathan Shipley" Received: from mail-io1-f52.google.com ([209.85.166.52] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.0) with ESMTPS id 7476748 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Tue, 10 Dec 2019 18:20:31 +0100 Received: by mail-io1-f52.google.com with SMTP id c16so19615067ioh.6 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2019 09:20:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=iWB6iCtOcN5iuiqwPmvq6Jz99OMyylv811L8WjVIa1k=; b=QHwzHn1k8Fs6iFOY/j+EwSWRIpouWJfzFYyTE2u3vMDF0J38Tk1ZQnrJtdcACACjmp +roiz7uNdwXA+StnB1150HvDIyfn1a/3gzKAemc8bgXlhyQhU3QZB+2FrXthOSIKYQ8F K8i9XmVK4HeGq/0OI5p+DksPjtreE8poUp+LtPaX9Um98zsN61RDdvwuE0GKuenCjznN bcfnF2B5ZK1I+MiDwQlTLHgSRxCQHAmU0x+jN+CysvWvzUPleeBkgbPf3lALjs3INJY5 Ea9f1M9ugmQ2KxvNNl5McsKyVjdLtSbxD7BmQxY1dp33kNMxL8aFqhGC2rBESqO38FF/ Rm1A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=iWB6iCtOcN5iuiqwPmvq6Jz99OMyylv811L8WjVIa1k=; b=UDMEQ+sLumhliV2Da2GCPiZ3UyDJaPjuJEQLunUsr05J/rJSp+ZZTmWJmIdyUwQKGB N0JjwELCDZMBivaKUTSl0chsV5ZLNXnN2Tt81cW9zPisrDSbaEdY+DiUjXBPCT9ZAGut 4N+EoS7pg7gpsl1YXXqq/uqf8h40SsissHXUYYxp4rj9hoHfXe6pHJoF3SA5sga0RHI2 snWFVR4ggzWu92Xhpi4zqsv18GP89TS77F2ISPKq/xSdQ/Lc1icQxKNj46eBDysLU5Or k8OjgnadP7HAmMLaTay7BtzukaUaZoWK/Snz42g94VZ4dDe88LlFOhV5pjWb6inqioCl 9R1Q== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWIsxAwzxHVWPGUwy/2gePCNPADS1Dn4OYXc+yq8aYawBVvotkc GLKvJITuMb5rVj4j7C142m3VbqL5VUww5ZKDJ26Uqw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqy/cg3KX87tYpwNatw63XVnSYBTLPncspHJ4KDZUApyDjMFUS1wx291n19Wx0deeGGTc9cUHpGhNG5Wind1KeM= X-Received: by 2002:a5e:db49:: with SMTP id r9mr25184225iop.210.1575998429638; Tue, 10 Dec 2019 09:20:29 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2019 09:20:18 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] We can order a new MacPro tomorrow. To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000090b95d05995cba3b" --00000000000090b95d05995cba3b Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ha - and quick update - the Buy link is live on Apple site. Price quickly goes over 20K with mid-range CPU offering, 96GB of RAM, and the top of the line GPU. And apparently just one internal hard drive? Highest option of everything (with an absurd 1.5 TB of RAM) brings it up to $52,199= . On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 8:44 AM Nathan Shipley wrote: > Dennis said: "As far as the new Mac Pro goes, I=E2=80=99m withholding ju= dgment > until I see how Redshift, Octane and Unity work in their Metal incarnatio= ns > on the new machines." > > This is totally where our motion department is right now. We're running > propped up cheesegraters with 1080 cards in them, would probably all pref= er > to use OSX if we could, but it's going to come down to support for the > software we need to use. Which, in addition to AE, is C4D, Octane, > Redshift, Houdini, and a little bit of Nuke and Maya/Arnold. > > From the day of the announcement, I was worried about them not having > Nvidia cards and how that is going to play out with a bunch of software > companies that have larger user bases on Windows/Nvidia to support. > > We actually have the budget to spend a bunch of money on computers but it= s > just feeling so hard to justify the Mac Pro for reasons in addition to > price. Very curious to see what the price differential for comparable > hardware ends up being. It's not even a question which way I'd go if it > was my own money. > > This has been a good discussion to read. Thank y'all, > - Nathan > > On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 8:35 AM Mike Abbott > wrote: > >> >> On 10/12/2019 15:55, Stephen van Vuuren wrote: >> >> Windows OS will never be Mac OS and vice versa. But you can get 99% of >> either on either. I move back and forth between both every day... >> >> >> The other life saving application on Windows: Directory Opus: >> https://www.gpsoft.com.au/ >> >> Think of it as Windows Explorer with a PhD. >> >> >> Mike >> > --00000000000090b95d05995cba3b Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ha - and quick update - the Buy link is live on Apple site.=C2=A0 Price qu= ickly goes over 20K with mid-range CPU offering, 96GB of RAM, and the top o= f the line GPU.=C2=A0 And apparently just one internal hard drive?=C2=A0 Hi= ghest option of everything (with an absurd 1.5 TB of RAM) brings it up to $= 52,199.

On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 8:44 AM Nathan Shipley <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
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Dennis sa= id:=C2=A0 "As far as the new Mac Pro goes, I=E2=80=99m withholding jud= gment until I see how Redshift, Octane and Unity work in their Metal incarn= ations on the new machines."

This is totally where = our motion department is right now.=C2=A0 We're running propped up chee= segraters with 1080 cards in them, would probably all prefer to use OSX if = we could, but it's going to come down to support for the software we ne= ed to use.=C2=A0 Which, in addition to AE, is C4D, Octane, Redshift, Houdin= i, and a little bit of Nuke and Maya/Arnold.

From = the day of the announcement, I was worried about them not having Nvidia car= ds and how that is going to play out with a bunch of software companies=C2= =A0that have larger user bases on Windows/Nvidia to support.

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We actually have the budget to spend a bunch of money on compute= rs but its just feeling so hard to justify the Mac Pro for reasons in addit= ion to price.=C2=A0 Very curious to see what the price differential for com= parable hardware ends up being.=C2=A0 It's not even a question which wa= y I'd go if it was my own money.

This has been= a good discussion to read.=C2=A0 Thank y'all,
=C2=A0- Nathan=

On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 8:35 AM Mike Abbott <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wro= te:
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On 10/12/2019 15:55, Stephen van Vuuren wrote:
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Windows OS will never be Mac OS and vice versa. But you can get 99% of either on either.=C2=A0 I move back a= nd forth between both every day...


The other life saving application on Windows: Directory Opus: https://www.gpsoft.com.a= u/

Think of it as Windows Explorer with a PhD.


Mike

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