From: "scott.aelist" Received: from mail-ua1-f48.google.com ([209.85.222.48] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.0) with ESMTPS id 7477661 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Thu, 12 Dec 2019 00:50:24 +0100 Received: by mail-ua1-f48.google.com with SMTP id 59so150372uap.12 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 2019 15:50:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=onbG0UJkJPrt0dcfcq86ROi5lQID8ldoH8G2kjRBgmM=; b=p6+KAbt2K7fk+su8BbAnRDiBUCtf/7HTcBNhtBAverYSPtcyeQ0bxype7WGQMZzL0a QSIappN6EMArOx4FNVsybprZ1fvjQSDtSW96Z26I78Xkm84/4zSgB9WvajY4oWNN+saI ZAdOdsx9jWq23sadkF6N/FT62X4rZFUqmbi3B0X4A+SSW80W6jIN38HxDAAld01Odcg5 drwJBtsGceyqN6HhXjMtSkupv4GzzDH5Y5EYQ7n6y+H81Zk5WX0jB4kkYq+6dj78IgF+ SSzSH2RTyOyk//WyW30NWHaqwVrF3MSm/zsmB7pyyLjL6NQmAodJe+mSaDyCZLqPkagW sDXw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=onbG0UJkJPrt0dcfcq86ROi5lQID8ldoH8G2kjRBgmM=; b=EWwqJ4Kqe6+qVA9L4XN8YJwfRERoLa4/bnNUWqH6I74dUV4Y44YM+CTFu3OEb2weSR pCShUCPqKe9c60/dIatINLg8zMsTRDc6opKclKHKcVHtkEpz2yi0g8o2SNyetLpsihF8 EuVTPlNRFBFRwd/QeR/fYSx9H0FmJvT6dtrKIFwk0O0k+ssnafw+NMQ6uZMdvQCMwrlX BcBM0lfP+qscBVSL6VFE6C1NrDKqXBUgPC3xsjdyWToHVnOIx7qF4NCSStMXWcnqUGpi 1zF5X1hRCdtcTb7fpD3dnFaCXkYOSzEB1ANhGG4Vpb7mlHnJ2JtKp6ZCsaVToLZYhype 3DWA== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWmHdSqdaNNMSc+wgCVZ3Wy2/p+qcYuGj0zHkA7YlWsiyb/wgKY OxVy3z5WCW1sJf80CUOQGRwB1bfT3ZbRIms1DX0UvQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwx+K1HqN/cMVpiMddpvPHoGtbBROQvc3JscdchI52yejlSfQW3SfGfWQ8Oe8spzrgpboHVGvsKAtMMtwh3W2Y= X-Received: by 2002:ab0:714c:: with SMTP id k12mr5750852uao.124.1576108222633; Wed, 11 Dec 2019 15:50:22 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2019 15:49:46 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] Complaint Numbers Effect To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000bcdd8e0599764a7e" --000000000000bcdd8e0599764a7e Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I understand you're angry. There's a lot of things in Aftereffects that i'm angry about as well. I don't support time investment in the numbers effect because it's old tech. I'd rather have a numbers preset built into the new type engine which is infinitely more powerful. Again f you're interested in solving you're problem i'd be interested to hear what it is. If you just want to vent that's cool too. On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 3:06 PM Timothy Sassoon wrote: > It sounds like you=E2=80=99re saying that you=E2=80=99re fine with AE=E2= =80=99s built-in effects > rusting in the yard like washing machines and old cars, because that > provides 3rd party developers with a market to exploit. Pardon me, but I > find that a little problematic for commercial software, that it=E2=80=99s > developers are short-selling it. If it was Blender or GIMP or whatever th= at > might be a different thing. > > Tim Sassoon > SFD > Venice, CA > On Dec 11, 2019, 2:05 PM -0800, Lloyd Alvarez , > wrote: > > Hey Tim > > > And PS you don=E2=80=99t get monospaced with leading zeros that way :-) > > You know we have a solution for this as well ;-) > > https://aescripts.com/monospacer/ > > > I appreciate your industry, but BASIC frame number burn-ins should be > correct in the app, without having to pay $24.95 additionally for it. Mor= e > sophisticated usage as you illustrate, sure. > > This is my biased opiniopn of course, but what's important to you is not > important to other AE users so the fact that AE has this 3rd party > expandability is what makes it great and has kept it relevant after all > these years ;-) > > Cheers, > Lloyd > > > On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 3:01 PM Timothy Sassoon > wrote: > >> And PS you don=E2=80=99t get monospaced with leading zeros that way :-) >> >> >> Tim Sassoon >> SFD >> Venice, CA >> >> >> >> On Dec 11, 2019, at 11:19 AM, David Torno >> wrote: >> >> No need for precomps. Add text layer, add expression to source text >> property, and choose timeToFrames from preset arrow drop down. >> >> Done. >> >> You can use any font in AE now and size. >> >> David Torno >> 818.391.6060 >> -------------------- >> https://vimeo.com/davidtorno (experiments & breakdowns) >> https://gumroad.com/davidtorno (products for sale) >> http://provideocoalition.com/author/dtorno (tutorials) >> >> "The most useless day is that in which we do not laugh" >> -Charles Field >> >> On Dec 11, 2019, at 10:47 AM, Timothy Sassoon >> wrote: >> >> Complaint and FR - The Numbers effect type size is limited to 128pt. I= =E2=80=99m >> putting the request here, since I was bounced from the AE beta list a ye= ars >> ago. >> >> With today=E2=80=99s frame sizes that=E2=80=99s often absurd SMALL, and = one has to jump >> through precomp hoops to scale it big enough to be useful; current proje= ct >> 400%. How about 999 points maximum? That might keep us for a few years. >> >> >> >> Tim Sassoon >> SFD >> Venice, CA 90291 >> +---End of message---+ >> To unsubscribe send any message to >> >> >> >> +---End of message---+ >> To unsubscribe send any message to >> >> >> --000000000000bcdd8e0599764a7e Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I understand you're angry. There's a lot of things= in Aftereffects that i'm angry about as well. I don't support time= investment in the numbers effect because it's old tech. I'd rather= have a numbers preset built into the new type engine which is infinitely m= ore powerful.
Again f you're interested in solving you're probl= em i'd be interested to hear what it is. If you just want to vent that&= #39;s cool too.=C2=A0

On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 3:06 PM Timothy Sassoon = <AE-List@media-motion.tv&= gt; wrote:
It sounds like you=E2=80=99re saying that you=E2=80=99re = fine with AE=E2=80=99s built-in effects rusting in the yard like washing ma= chines and old cars, because that provides 3rd party developers with a mark= et to exploit. Pardon me, but I find that a little problematic for commerci= al software, that it=E2=80=99s developers are short-selling it. If it was B= lender or GIMP or whatever that might be a different thing.

Tim Sassoon
SFD
Venice, CA
On Dec 11, 2019, 2:05 PM -0800, Lloyd Alv= arez <AE-Li= st@media-motion.tv>, wrote:
Hey Tim

> And PS you don=E2=80=99t get monospaced with leading zeros that w= ay :-)

You know we have a solution for this as well ;-)=C2=A0


> I appreciate your industry, but BASIC frame number burn-ins shoul= d be correct in the app, without having to pay $24.95 additionally for it. = More sophisticated usage as you illustrate, sure.

This is my biased opiniopn of course, but what's important to you = is not important to other AE users so the fact that AE has this 3rd party e= xpandability is what makes it great and has kept it relevant after all thes= e years ;-)

Cheers,
Lloyd


On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 3:01 PM Timot= hy Sassoon <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
And PS you don=E2=80=99t get monospaced with leading zeros that way :-= )


Tim Sassoon
SFD
Venice, CA



On Dec 11, 2019, at 11:19 AM, David Torno <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:=

No need for precomps. Add text layer, add expression to source text pr= operty, and choose timeToFrames from preset arrow drop down.

Done.

You can use any font in AE now and size.

David Torno
818.391.6060
--------------------
https://vimeo.co= m/davidtorno (experiments & breakdowns)
https://gumroa= d.com/davidtorno (products for sale)
ht= tp://provideocoalition.com/author/dtorno (tutorials)

"The most useless day is that in which we do not laugh"
-Charles Field

On Dec 11, 2019, at 10:47 AM, Timothy Sassoon &l= t;AE-List@medi= a-motion.tv> wrote:

Complaint and FR - The Numbers effect type size is limited to 128pt. I=E2= =80=99m putting the request here, since I was bounced from the AE beta list= a years ago.

With today=E2=80=99s frame sizes that=E2=80=99s often absurd SMALL, and one= has to jump through precomp hoops to scale it big enough to be useful; cur= rent project 400%. How about 999 points maximum? That might keep us for a f= ew years.



Tim Sassoon
SFD
Venice, CA 90291
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