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Call them mobile workstation= s if you like but they=E2=80=99re still laptops.=20 On my 2008 3,1 MacPro with a gtx780 Resolve 12 runs just fine. You see, unli= ke Adobe, BlackMagic doesn=E2=80=99t force your hand hardware wise. They hav= e standalone installers for every version to suit your system. That=E2=80=99= s a level of customer service Adobe has long since forgotten.=20 To them we are just a cash cow they keep milking Adam Mercado Owner & Creative Idiot Influxx Media Production=20 714.928.9896 Moving Images. For Business > On Dec 14, 2019, at 8:38 AM, George Loch wrote: >=20 > Resolve has it's own h/w requirements. I know it doesn't run well, as an e= xperiment, on my late 2013 rMBP.=20 >=20 > -gl >=20 >> On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 9:17 AM Adam Mercado wr= ote: >> Well quite frankly this is a pattern. How many comments like this do we h= ear? How many before Adobe decides to give a damn. Not until they lose marke= t share to Resolve (or whatever) will they get the message.=20 >>=20 >> I dumped Premier for Resolve and haven=E2=80=99t looked back. It every bi= t the editor that Pr should be. I=E2=80=99m still dipping my toes into Fusio= n so for the time being I=E2=80=99m stuck with AE. I do look forward to the d= ay ahead when I kick Adobe to the kerb once and for all >>=20 >> Adam Mercado >> Owner & Creative Idiot >> Influxx Media Production=20 >> 714.928.9896 >>=20 >> Moving Images. For Business >>=20 >>> On Dec 14, 2019, at 6:08 AM, Jim Curtis wrote:= >>>=20 >>> I=E2=80=99m still using Pr 2018. One of my routines to fix problems whe= n deleting prefs or trashing caches and renders don=E2=80=99t work is to uni= nstall and reinstall the app. >>>=20 >>> That option is no longer available. I can=E2=80=99t find a standalone i= nstaller on the Adobe site either. >>>=20 >>> I=E2=80=99m also still using Ae 2018 because of Dynamic Link with Pr. >>>=20 >>> Pr 2018 is the ONLY version of Pr that works reliably on my 2012 MacPro a= nd my 2014 MPB Retina. 2019 was a nightmare, and my trial of 2020 (minimal s= o far) has been a repeat of the lack of response I=E2=80=99d witnessed in 20= 19. =20 >>>=20 >>> An Adobe employee on the Pr forum told me I need to buy a newer computer= , so I can run the newer versions. Adobe shouldn=E2=80=99t be taking the be= st builds of their apps off-line, IMO. They shouldn=E2=80=99t be releasing c= rap and calling it an =E2=80=9Cupgrade.=E2=80=9D The =E2=80=9Cnew features=E2= =80=9D in Pr 2020 are ludicrous, IMO. >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> . --Apple-Mail-8FC77B52-F57B-4E79-B26F-EF0A480ABD29 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well I know it=E2=80=99s quite the thing th= ese days, but I would never try to run a computer graphics business on a lap= top. Call them mobile workstations if you like but they=E2=80=99re still lap= tops. 

On my 2008 3,1 MacPro with a gtx780 Resolve 1= 2 runs just fine. You see, unlike Adobe, BlackMagic doesn=E2=80=99t force yo= ur hand hardware wise. They have standalone installers for every version to s= uit your system. That=E2=80=99s a level of customer service Adobe has long s= ince forgotten. 

To them we are just a cash co= w they keep milking

Adam Mercado
Owner & Creative= Idiot
Influxx Media Production 
714.928.9896

Moving Images. For Busine= ss

On Dec 14, 2019, at 8:38 AM, George Loch <<= a href=3D"mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv">AE-List@media-motion.tv> wr= ote:

Resolve ha= s it's own h/w requirements. I know it doesn't run well, as an experiment, o= n my late 2013 rMBP. 

-gl

On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 9= :17 AM Adam Mercado <AE-List@m= edia-motion.tv> wrote:
Well quite frankly this is a pattern. How many= comments like this do we hear? How many before Adobe decides to give a damn= . Not until they lose market share to Resolve (or whatever) will they get th= e message. 

I dumped Premier for Resolve and haven=E2= =80=99t looked back. It every bit the editor that Pr should be. I=E2=80=99m s= till dipping my toes into Fusion so for the time being I=E2=80=99m stuck wit= h AE. I do look forward to the day ahead when I kick Adobe to the kerb once a= nd for all

<= div>Adam Mercado=
Owner & C= reative Idiot
Influxx Media Production 
714.928.9896

Moving Images. For Business

On Dec 14, 2019, at 6:08 AM, Jim Curtis <AE-List@media-motion.tv>= ; wrote:

I= =E2=80=99m still using Pr 2018.  One of my routines to fix problems whe= n deleting prefs or trashing caches and renders don=E2=80=99t work is to uni= nstall and reinstall the app.

That option is no longer av= ailable.  I can=E2=80=99t find a standalone installer on the Adobe site= either.

I=E2=80=99m also still using Ae 2018 b= ecause of Dynamic Link with Pr.

Pr 2018 is th= e ONLY version of Pr that works reliably on my 2012 MacPro and my 2014 MPB R= etina.  2019 was a nightmare, and my trial of 2020 (minimal so far) has= been a repeat of the lack of response I=E2=80=99d witnessed in 2019.  =

An Adobe employee on the Pr forum told me I need t= o buy a newer computer, so I can run the newer versions.  Adobe shouldn= =E2=80=99t be taking the best builds of their apps off-line, IMO.  They= shouldn=E2=80=99t be releasing crap and calling it an =E2=80=9Cupgrade.=E2=80= =9D  The =E2=80=9Cnew features=E2=80=9D in Pr 2020 are ludicrous, IMO.<= /div>


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