From: "Steve Oakley" Received: from mout.perfora.net ([74.208.4.194] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.0) with ESMTPS id 7487583 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Fri, 03 Jan 2020 22:27:13 +0100 Received: from [10.1.1.102] ([75.129.149.237]) by mrelay.perfora.net (mreueus004 [74.208.5.2]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1N2EcM-1jj9Fp02Wc-013cL2 for ; Fri, 03 Jan 2020 22:27:11 +0100 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_E7A3283E-4C5C-4C24-8EB0-65C329C8BF06" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.0 \(3608.60.0.2.1\)) Subject: Re: [AE] To Catalina or not Catalina? Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2020 15:27:10 -0600 References: To: After Effects Mail List In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.60.0.2.1) X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:qs0d8it2ixPGh/L5NEOVF+d4sIdXuxmIzlHV8FllVPqjHxuD73P OiUMcyEzZS+ceaaCqrLVJ2ZfV8DG+rzRhgSJwHEOfOpPr26o7Q6lVnVqsapF53l3v6ASw/0 Btryj5i6XZecOhH6fVsdKNxHStRda6cF1SEph9rbcBYaEl7CvtX3p5r99DlYrAK0DGXQyKa O2pPbDPXAWRYughlR8Z+A== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:PY3H34AVrMU=:EDUlUK0auXpZlYwJtE1Ftd XIK+1FAXKobVTFUUSe0UcdXxapS0eZfXja7hsVP6aEYtRuylzJkJhi4tsdkRXsnwXWXRuhwp5 NrWoP89Y974IcN1UBpClFqsdfxxHY5kvYQPjdlSAqFoqU9r0KDbj6nkBkU0pEZ7SxOlShM05O vDGZ3xNwCzXhENe+p9ujR/n46+IO9VX1vYVn1uwnRsORdH5KU/yU9goFjU6u5wXU1TV0kvStX WNy6RW+hXaqQtx5W0qp4KG/mA6kPJaz90DkwE+Mr/YrOK0SWgOZxQB0XaVp0itDfrVsYXeHrH Xr7EaU2z2TaeyG0MCnthoIITdU440FlCmCpVohMaJLOSKO4PQETGpZGBrem8FTMUFO1gXVhwi STQaw56R7PWBUhZ2G8GqcLsWuAalSoWomZkSpkspLc35qXwhbiyGd+mop0HUQx3PVpJrPTadm E8JTTPiKr0ia3dpuUrLt7aC239OzPF5JoF+6nrc/PdVFSe+VwlNi29M6OCuylYDZZFwU3vnjn Rjdostp53fMRzVE/mOpxCpWtQu4Yg/CXFGvBWsH4ACz+HohdwwyWl7sVqe02bR2F4rzC/rBdd NVWw77C2PeuzTJyOkt2OppfvEI/LLZ96VlHDptK6N3Ey5HPydfySKOMndFYU/Fg47cTuEM++R 6va+PdJS/zkqMTYl62wVCqkCDMP5bjCNcD9+/qhf0s88Vb3Oh7XDqrWAgXoAJJKN9W0Z+aux0 Zm/O3nZy/gFiaS1WnrJqLDKu93glhM4P0Yp34SyRlExPY3ks53G5VQs2U/P5CQu1ed+Q6Bey8 PmnrAf4dLzBtKFgeSOWeIOCDy6QnVQCf0OMbuo9aoKQVqX+Hsa6SuKkni6PJuj/t1XlgmGGqb HKGWjjETxs2mdiSDyUbrtX770f2wyxDcvNCu+J98g= --Apple-Mail=_E7A3283E-4C5C-4C24-8EB0-65C329C8BF06 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 10.15 has been fine on laptop 2016 i7 its had issues on 2011 tower. specifically scrolling any TL in Cubase = 10.5.5 to the left causes a kernal panic. 10.0.5 is ok, as have been all = other apps including resolve. I=E2=80=99ve also had KP=E2=80=99s from = waking from sleep caused by I think the drivers for my eSATA PCIe card. = regular work as been ok in pretty much everything else. I did finally = install a AMD 5700 XT to make this work. While my card benmchmarks on = the high side, especially compared to eGPU based setups that do 1/2, I = think the drivers have a VRAM memory leak that will eat up all VRAM, = cause flushing of VRAM. The drivers supporting the newest AMD GPU=E2=80=99= s seem to have performance issues. Going Vega64 would probably be best = but I wasn=E2=80=99t willing to go another $150 on top of $400=E2=80=A6. = or if you can find a Radeon 7 (VII) which is actually discontinues but = has 2080TI level performance. S > On Jan 3, 2020, at 3:17 PM, Timothy Sassoon = wrote: >=20 > Stephen, >=20 > I bought a new MBP 16=E2=80=9D loaded 64GB RAM, so there=E2=80=99s no = choice of an earlier OS. The machine is fast as hell, but also a bit = skittish in the UI, which may be Catalina craziness in action, or it may = be an over-sensitive trackpad. Or both. Now using a mouse with it to = see. >=20 >=20 > Tim Sassoon > Venice, CA >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >> On Jan 3, 2020, at 11:45 AM, Stephen van Vuuren = > wrote: >>=20 >> So who has taken the plunge, especially MacBook Pro users? I = primarily use FCPx and Adobe Suite plus MS Office on my MacBook Pro. I = did have a lot of music apps but moved most of that except Logic and = Garageband which I barely use to Windows 10 box for several reasons = (very slow Catalina support, internal SSD space for samples etc.). >> =20 >> Best, >> =20 >> stephen van vuuren >> 336.202.4777 >> =20 >> http://www.insaturnsrings.com/ >> http://www.sv2dcp.com/ >> http://www.sv2studios.com/ >> =20 >> A film is =E2=80=93 or should be =E2=80=93 more like music than like = fiction. It should be a progression of moods and feelings. The theme, = what=E2=80=99s behind the emotion, the meaning, all that comes later. >> =E2=80=93Stanley Kubrick >> =20 --Apple-Mail=_E7A3283E-4C5C-4C24-8EB0-65C329C8BF06 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 10.15= has been fine on laptop 2016 i7

its had  issues on 2011 tower. specifically scrolling = any TL in Cubase 10.5.5 to the left causes a kernal panic. 10.0.5 is ok, = as have been all other apps including resolve. I=E2=80=99ve also had = KP=E2=80=99s from waking from sleep caused by I think the drivers for my = eSATA PCIe card. regular work as been ok in pretty much everything else. = I did finally install a AMD 5700 XT to make this work. While my card = benmchmarks on the high side, especially compared to eGPU based setups = that do 1/2, I think the drivers have a  VRAM memory leak that will = eat up all VRAM, cause flushing of VRAM. The drivers supporting the = newest AMD GPU=E2=80=99s seem to have performance issues. Going Vega64 = would probably be best but I wasn=E2=80=99t willing to go another $150 = on top of $400=E2=80=A6. or if you can find a Radeon 7 (VII) which is = actually discontinues but has 2080TI level performance.
S

On Jan = 3, 2020, at 3:17 PM, Timothy Sassoon <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

Stephen,

I bought a new MBP 16=E2=80= =9D loaded 64GB RAM, so there=E2=80=99s no choice of an earlier OS. The = machine is fast as hell, but also a bit skittish in the UI, which may be = Catalina craziness in action, or it may be an over-sensitive trackpad. = Or both. Now using a mouse with it to see.


Tim = Sassoon
Venice, CA





On Jan 3, 2020, at 11:45 AM, Stephen van Vuuren <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

So who = has taken the plunge, especially MacBook Pro users? I primarily use FCPx = and Adobe Suite plus MS Office on my MacBook Pro. I did have a lot of = music apps but moved most of that except Logic and Garageband which I = barely use to Windows 10 box for several reasons (very slow Catalina = support, internal SSD space for samples etc.).
 
Best,
 
stephen = van vuuren
336.202.4777
 
http://www.insaturnsrings.com/
http://www.sv2dcp.com/
http://www.sv2studios.com/
 
A film is =E2=80=93 or = should be =E2=80=93 more like music than like fiction. It should be a = progression of moods and feelings. The theme, what=E2=80=99s behind the = emotion, the meaning, all that comes later.
=E2=80=93Stanley = Kubrick
 

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