From: "Chris Zwar" Received: from mail-pg1-f175.google.com ([209.85.215.175] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.0) with ESMTPS id 7488794 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Tue, 07 Jan 2020 03:21:44 +0100 Received: by mail-pg1-f175.google.com with SMTP id b137so27740556pga.6 for ; Mon, 06 Jan 2020 18:21:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=chriszwar-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=from:mime-version:subject:date:references:to:in-reply-to:message-id; bh=M89XbsmpHYxDgD4yX2VYTqz8Okp84wjgu8uvAoXr70Q=; b=ApDrA3nsCuf4A5MRfDeiwwz8bICd+HWT66n0+RIBu3+wbqy91T3DjXfcA8oX+4Z4NF GkosQs3H2HrULXoe2kyh/EGao64aphSujc9J3nI0/Cb2vS1wmgl4WaFLt+5qD33/+GcU sG/gnQNeHegGixzAfXAJewiuSp2p3ApAYktInjB5dPjnsRVxlJ1t1QPIuvKLacCJRn8/ q+lf6SzsqfvShYkA7tBE44mu8LBgfvKC4X1OlYOH+Re+v8UjfkpsIYKrQtMUHlCSg1wf jrG0FvdyIJDaM3iQJXbQLH2cOY5MlJL1JSO8Z2L5RkUWpC53oyPkTfLcgk/iIC/OGHCO Yjcw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:mime-version:subject:date:references:to :in-reply-to:message-id; bh=M89XbsmpHYxDgD4yX2VYTqz8Okp84wjgu8uvAoXr70Q=; b=UGFGY/SPXeNXeG/bLLRn21qpHdBhagdUHdfWk3sBnPcTqNOwdGkY3NSh2jJkTp14Rf az/Ezbq/kqONYbzLtV+MUFptrD0yM+msl4kj05IiLxT5P1Zcsyr4BcTWt3T/yOB7JHK9 hHQnn0IVe1RfXZQnS+7L//byRWdvhWa05I1zH6zqj0fQgGuRa85nKJIvo7fFhC+VuUMe eS+2R53q1VRgP34nNRZLswh30AV7VH+Y8z0XuNzNZyW5JnOkybddX6h4M7shupHW3JZD JwfciqUse/BqqmV+9CVfvnysjI2nH0MKfOv6d72mK7IZ+Cw9ewcJmjDRRi+P7olNt518 0mrQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWVJNTd7Qoa/TSlcklJTYmhYYYDmEAFKxwqvZsCLXUS00fUUU/v wid1Sc4ED0XsZfhfrzbsIbswsIXcFOE= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwLTuk4UILQqDswwwk8uuhbxHTTXwYEJ/HQ4ro0t3bEINhVC1zx5FdKg4ctYtHc88x+TZGrkQ== X-Received: by 2002:a62:19d1:: with SMTP id 200mr107777537pfz.26.1578363701706; Mon, 06 Jan 2020 18:21:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from [10.100.100.53] ([210.8.181.146]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id f9sm77598151pfd.141.2020.01.06.18.21.39 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 06 Jan 2020 18:21:41 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_10E1A699-6768-46DA-BAC1-10B9FB1C400B" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) Subject: Re: [AE] Semi OT - call for volunteers on Mother of All Renders Part Deux Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2020 13:21:37 +1100 References: To: After Effects Mail List In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <40954FF6-8844-400B-B6A7-782C183DB5B6@chriszwar.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) --Apple-Mail=_10E1A699-6768-46DA-BAC1-10B9FB1C400B Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I=E2=80=99ve forwarded this on to our IT guy to see if the studio I=E2=80=99= m working for can help, although the machines here tend to be running = 24/7 anyway. But curious to know why the 8-thread minimum? Does that = mean a 6-core i5 is a no-go? > On 7 Jan 2020, at 12:34 pm, Stephen van Vuuren = wrote: >=20 > A number of folks here helped with Part one of this After Effects = monster render a couple of years ago. We are doing it again. And this = time, instead of 5.6K 24fps, it=E2=80=99s 8K square at 30fps or over 4 = times as many pixels. > =20 > Worse yet, it only runs in AE 2020 on a machine with minimum 8 = threads, 32GB RAM, 8 GB GPU. =20 > =20 > 2019/2019 version are unstable and twice as slow so no go. We are = offering before donor points, plus this time prizes for fastest render = and most frames rendered. > =20 > Full details here: = https://www.insaturnsrings.com/post/we-feel-the-need-for-speed-call-for-re= nder-machine-volunteers = > =20 > Please share with like-minded folks. > =20 > Best, > =20 > stephen van vuuren > 336.202.4777 > =20 > http://www.insaturnsrings.com/ > http://www.sv2dcp.com/ > http://www.sv2studios.com/ > =20 > A film is =E2=80=93 or should be =E2=80=93 more like music than like = fiction. It should be a progression of moods and feelings. The theme, = what=E2=80=99s behind the emotion, the meaning, all that comes later. > =E2=80=93Stanley Kubrick > =20 > From: After Effects Mail List >=20 > Sent: Friday, January 3, 2020 4:53 PM > To: After Effects Mail List > > Subject: Re: [AE] To Catalina or not Catalina? > =20 > Thanks all. =46rom these and general reports online, even though now = is a convenient time to go Catalina I=E2=80=99m going to hang back. > =20 > Best, > =20 > stephen van vuuren > 336.202.4777 > =20 > http://www.insaturnsrings.com/ > http://www.sv2dcp.com/ > http://www.sv2studios.com/ > =20 > A film is =E2=80=93 or should be =E2=80=93 more like music than like = fiction. It should be a progression of moods and feelings. The theme, = what=E2=80=99s behind the emotion, the meaning, all that comes later. > =E2=80=93Stanley Kubrick > =20 > From: After Effects Mail List >=20 > Sent: Friday, January 3, 2020 4:44 PM > To: After Effects Mail List > > Subject: Re: [AE] To Catalina or not Catalina? > =20 > So far, Word and Excel 2016 are working fine on my MacPro running = 10.15.2. > =20 > I=E2=80=99m disappointed in some of what I=E2=80=99ve experienced in = Premiere. I=E2=80=99ve noticed that some third-party effects that were = accelerated on my 2012 MacPro with Titan X CUDA are not even close to = parity or better on the AMD card. That=E2=80=99s sad. Colorista IV is = super slow to render, and laggy on the interface that has icons that = disappear. > =20 > Ae seems fine, but I haven=E2=80=99t done that much with it. Most of = my plugs that worked on High Sierra work on Catalina, and only a few = were rewritten or updated for it. The new Red Giant management software = lost several of my authorizations, and won=E2=80=99t let me get = authorized until they all return from a long holiday. > =20 > You need to find a replacement for QT Player/Pro 7. I=E2=80=99m using = VLC as the default app for .mov and .mp4, etc. > =20 > My general advice is to run Mojave if it=E2=80=99s an option. I = don=E2=80=99t trust any OSX below 10.x.5. But, I had no choice. I=E2=80=99= m a reluctant adopter. > =20 > =20 > =20 > =20 >=20 > On Jan 3, 2020, at 1:45 PM, Stephen van Vuuren = > wrote: > =20 > So who has taken the plunge, especially MacBook Pro users? I primarily = use FCPx and Adobe Suite plus MS Office on my MacBook Pro. I did have a = lot of music apps but moved most of that except Logic and Garageband = which I barely use to Windows 10 box for several reasons (very slow = Catalina support, internal SSD space for samples etc.). --Apple-Mail=_10E1A699-6768-46DA-BAC1-10B9FB1C400B Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 I=E2=80=99ve forwarded this on to our IT guy to see if the = studio I=E2=80=99m working for can help, although the machines here tend = to be running 24/7 anyway.  But curious to know why the 8-thread = minimum?  Does that mean a 6-core i5 is a no-go?

On 7 Jan 2020, at 12:34 pm, Stephen van Vuuren <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

A number = of folks here helped with Part one of this After Effects monster render = a couple of years ago. We are doing it again. And this time, instead of = 5.6K 24fps, it=E2=80=99s 8K square at 30fps or over 4 times as many = pixels.
 
Worse yet, it only runs in AE 2020 on a machine with minimum = 8 threads, 32GB RAM, 8 GB GPU.  
 
2019/2019 version are unstable and = twice as slow so no go. We are offering before donor points, plus this = time prizes for fastest render and most frames rendered.
 
Full = details here: https://www.insaturnsrings.com/post/we-feel-the-need-for-speed-= call-for-render-machine-volunteers
 
Please share with like-minded = folks.
 
Best,
 
stephen van vuuren
336.202.4777
 
http://www.insaturnsrings.com/
http://www.sv2dcp.com/
http://www.sv2studios.com/
 
A film is =E2=80=93 or = should be =E2=80=93 more like music than like fiction. It should be a = progression of moods and feelings. The theme, what=E2=80=99s behind the = emotion, the meaning, all that comes later.
=E2=80=93Stanley = Kubrick
 
From: After Effects Mail List = <AE-List@media-motion.tv> 
Sent: Friday, January 3, 2020 = 4:53 PM
To: After Effects Mail List = <AE-List@media-motion.tv>Subject: Re: [AE] To Catalina or not = Catalina?
 
Thanks all. =46rom these and general reports online, even = though now is a convenient time to go Catalina I=E2=80=99m going to hang = back.
 
Best,
 
stephen = van vuuren
336.202.4777
 
http://www.insaturnsrings.com/
http://www.sv2dcp.com/
http://www.sv2studios.com/
 
A film is =E2=80=93 or = should be =E2=80=93 more like music than like fiction. It should be a = progression of moods and feelings. The theme, what=E2=80=99s behind the = emotion, the meaning, all that comes later.
=E2=80=93Stanley = Kubrick
 
From: After Effects Mail List = <AE-List@media-motion.tv> 
Sent: Friday, January 3, 2020 = 4:44 PM
To: After Effects Mail List = <AE-List@media-motion.tv>Subject: Re: [AE] To Catalina or not = Catalina?
 
So far, Word and Excel 2016 are working fine on my MacPro = running 10.15.2.
 
I=E2=80=99m disappointed in some of what I=E2=80=99ve = experienced in Premiere.  I=E2=80=99ve = noticed that some third-party effects that were accelerated on my 2012 = MacPro with Titan X CUDA are not even close to parity or better on the = AMD card.  That=E2=80=99s sad.  Colorista IV is super slow to = render, and laggy on the interface that has icons that = disappear.
 
Ae seems fine, but I haven=E2=80=99t done that much with it. =  Most of my plugs that worked on High Sierra work on Catalina, and = only a few were rewritten or updated for it.  The new Red Giant = management software lost several of my authorizations, and won=E2=80=99t = let me get authorized until they all return from a long holiday.
 
You need to find a replacement for QT = Player/Pro 7.  I=E2=80=99m using VLC as the default app for .mov = and .mp4, etc.
 
My general advice is to run Mojave if it=E2=80=99s an option. =  I don=E2=80=99t trust any OSX below 10.x.5.  But, I had no = choice.  I=E2=80=99m a reluctant adopter.
 
 
 

 

On Jan 3, 2020, at 1:45 PM, Stephen van Vuuren <AE-List@media-motion.tv> = wrote:
 
So who has taken the = plunge, especially MacBook Pro users? I primarily use FCPx and Adobe = Suite plus MS Office on my MacBook Pro. I did have a lot of music apps = but moved most of that except Logic and Garageband which I barely use to = Windows 10 box for several reasons (very slow Catalina support, internal = SSD space for samples = etc.).
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