From: "Robert Kjettrup" Received: from mail-lf1-f48.google.com ([209.85.167.48] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.0) with ESMTPS id 7490131 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Thu, 09 Jan 2020 21:54:50 +0100 Received: by mail-lf1-f48.google.com with SMTP id b15so6253720lfc.4 for ; Thu, 09 Jan 2020 12:54:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=fvrqBHs0LrS+PZi9iOIvCXSqryxYzsu7QGsSkdA+D80=; b=HLnxTSAPD6sXHp32T9FDYL4r02HDMz1clGlWuHc/FPqYdgfwjD5TooQvuKUYl2nNpX 1nwuB/WI6o1iAD9Wnaw+VoA2pQjbPa4JratR9LQjhpBiZbY+ImVz0Ed0zelySx0eIua0 J3hGqnRtCe5CuGUHlHZ6p3A8lZ16hI+4CHQVkldEJ4cjxtcaYmdxAkhLbtvdh5hdiR7j 0zlrrV36STgRCnhgKRPpjwY8UQUgLyGDaZeHPKkKvTl0NqPgjFSeAiEk1LeBDm/D0RxO oUgqbxL+o0ia97jNla1Jc5m5UetvIcxenW2MvdvTE8Fw6fp8Qi4c3kSJDTqOPhLvsPwV tvXg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=fvrqBHs0LrS+PZi9iOIvCXSqryxYzsu7QGsSkdA+D80=; b=GonDe/BGHC4sikmLPY7dm7SfCOvhg/ZmFcdnc+tOd5jbFwZzHKeI5eLD82rlIvtknx pCMR3uzQ6lELr1wF7KF5J9DHHU7rOXQdEcdPXMAUqNUjoLnpC/RQNHvI3NuJUUshTjcv HfJyefWQe9EMavqIOXJl5vKI10zcr/nGG0cFfaM+Oum/hAUjQb1Mugfj/4m1ycx/Dymb L8YHZOYBoRVjzP4PuYwes34PlZb36HvLSVcQCV7L94rDTT+LljU+h2Q5GQHL3o+Mtwn5 OtTNOMeyJnu9EtCw4sm1YaNZndkOpbQyMNaFOghzgP/cADCvUDp6XbRGrZBqt5jqwNDF obkw== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAW3iT/OjYwE8j7LuKVOYm85y6JVuHdMEAiD+2Tpp57U4SMm1I1p VNhLgaUdaEwdI4KUH88zE+sdmAg5blUvTw/YxXXKrQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqycFQ7BVDk7nhX9WUuc86YesA2xv8p9cHBt4K4Zdd603EWKy4bsjNOIaioOwbXartoKH2myd9PMsDUQMKR9/Oc= X-Received: by 2002:a19:760c:: with SMTP id c12mr7749556lff.60.1578603289135; Thu, 09 Jan 2020 12:54:49 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2020 21:54:38 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] Semi OT - call for volunteers on Mother of All Renders Part Deux To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000004a551b059bbb3802" --0000000000004a551b059bbb3802 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable What kind of rendertimes are we talking about per frame in this new 8K project? I cant really say if i can help out if rendertimes are in several days per frame this time, but if a 8core i7 128GB 2080Ti can handled a few frames over a weekend i might be able to help a bit here and there this time again= . Robert Den tir. 7. jan. 2020 kl. 05.31 skrev Stephen van Vuuren < AE-List@media-motion.tv>: > Teddy, > > > > Hopefully you signed up for the mailing list or followed the many social > media posts about this topic or got the emails sent out to all donors and > volunteers over the past couple of years. There is also a FAQ > https://www.insaturnsrings.com/post/the-isr-faq that is update from time > to time (another update soon) but we are contractually unable to distribu= te > the primary perk (copy of the film on disc) while the film is theatrical > release. > > > > We post about this on social media all the time. The one perk that is > available is tickets to a showing near you and many donors have used this > perk to date. > > > > You could have also just dropped me a line as well at any time, I don=E2= =80=99t > recall seeing something from you. We have over 1100 donors and perk > fulfillment will have to be done when it=E2=80=99s feasible and practical= to do so. > > > > And is should be painfully clear from this, I=E2=80=99m still heavily in = debt and > working on finishing the film. Perks are typically distributed for a > project when its complete, not during production. > > > Stephen > > > > *From:* After Effects Mail List > *Sent:* Monday, January 6, 2020 11:21 PM > *To:* After Effects Mail List > *Subject:* Re: [AE] Semi OT - call for volunteers on Mother of All > Renders Part Deux > > > > Hey Stephen, just thought it was worth mentioning here that despite > rendering on that original project on one of my machines for over a month= , > and contributing a week of my personal time developing an animation for t= he > film, never saw one scrap of any promised =E2=80=9Cbenefits=E2=80=9D, =E2= =80=9Cdonor points=E2=80=9D or > =E2=80=9Cprizes=E2=80=9D > > > > So, folks, keep that in mind. > > > > On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 8:35 PM Stephen van Vuuren > wrote: > > A number of folks here helped with Part one of this After Effects monster > render a couple of years ago. We are doing it again. And this time, inste= ad > of 5.6K 24fps, it=E2=80=99s 8K square at 30fps or over 4 times as many pi= xels. > > > > Worse yet, it only runs in AE 2020 on a machine with minimum 8 threads, > 32GB RAM, 8 GB GPU. > > > > 2019/2019 version are unstable and twice as slow so no go. We are offerin= g > before donor points, plus this time prizes for fastest render and most > frames rendered. > > > > Full details here: > https://www.insaturnsrings.com/post/we-feel-the-need-for-speed-call-for-r= ender-machine-volunteers > > > > Please share with like-minded folks. > > > > Best, > > > > stephen van vuuren > > 336.202.4777 > > > > http://www.insaturnsrings.com/ > > http://www.sv2dcp.com/ > > http://www.sv2studios.com/ > > > > A film is =E2=80=93 or should be =E2=80=93 more like music than like fict= ion. It should be > a progression of moods and feelings. The theme, what=E2=80=99s behind the= emotion, > the meaning, all that comes later. > > =E2=80=93Stanley Kubrick > > > > *From:* After Effects Mail List > *Sent:* Friday, January 3, 2020 4:53 PM > *To:* After Effects Mail List > *Subject:* Re: [AE] To Catalina or not Catalina? > > > > Thanks all. From these and general reports online, even though now is a > convenient time to go Catalina I=E2=80=99m going to hang back. > > > > Best, > > > > stephen van vuuren > > 336.202.4777 > > > > http://www.insaturnsrings.com/ > > http://www.sv2dcp.com/ > > http://www.sv2studios.com/ > > > > A film is =E2=80=93 or should be =E2=80=93 more like music than like fict= ion. It should be > a progression of moods and feelings. The theme, what=E2=80=99s behind the= emotion, > the meaning, all that comes later. > > =E2=80=93Stanley Kubrick > > > > *From:* After Effects Mail List > *Sent:* Friday, January 3, 2020 4:44 PM > *To:* After Effects Mail List > *Subject:* Re: [AE] To Catalina or not Catalina? > > > > So far, Word and Excel 2016 are working fine on my MacPro running 10.15.2= . > > > > I=E2=80=99m disappointed in some of what I=E2=80=99ve experienced in Prem= iere. I=E2=80=99ve > noticed that some third-party effects that were accelerated on my 2012 > MacPro with Titan X CUDA are not even close to parity or better on the AM= D > card. That=E2=80=99s sad. Colorista IV is super slow to render, and lag= gy on the > interface that has icons that disappear. > > > > Ae seems fine, but I haven=E2=80=99t done that much with it. Most of my = plugs > that worked on High Sierra work on Catalina, and only a few were rewritte= n > or updated for it. The new Red Giant management software lost several of > my authorizations, and won=E2=80=99t let me get authorized until they all= return > from a long holiday. > > > > You need to find a replacement for QT Player/Pro 7. I=E2=80=99m using VL= C as the > default app for .mov and .mp4, etc. > > > > My general advice is to run Mojave if it=E2=80=99s an option. I don=E2= =80=99t trust any > OSX below 10.x.5. But, I had no choice. I=E2=80=99m a reluctant adopter= . > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 3, 2020, at 1:45 PM, Stephen van Vuuren > wrote: > > > > So who has taken the plunge, especially MacBook Pro users? I primarily us= e > FCPx and Adobe Suite plus MS Office on my MacBook Pro. I did have a lot o= f > music apps but moved most of that except Logic and Garageband which I > barely use to Windows 10 box for several reasons (very slow Catalina > support, internal SSD space for samples etc.). > > > > > > -- > > _____________________________ > > Teddy Gage > > President > > Shotgun Inc. > > 360 VR | MOGRAPH | VFX > > SHOTGUNPOST.COM > > BKLYN NY 11215 > --0000000000004a551b059bbb3802 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
What kind of rendertimes are we talking about per frame in= this new 8K project?
I cant really say if i can help out if rendertime= s are in several days per frame this time, but if a 8core i7 128GB 2080Ti c= an handled a few frames over a weekend i might be able to help a bit here a= nd there this time again.

Robert

Den tir. 7. = jan. 2020 kl. 05.31 skrev Stephen van Vuuren <AE-List@media-motion.tv>:

Teddy,

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Hopefully you signed up for the mailing list or foll= owed the many social media posts about this topic or got the emails sent ou= t to all donors and volunteers over the past couple of years. There is also= a FAQ https://www.insaturnsrings.com/post/the-isr-faq that is update from = time to time (another update soon) but we are contractually unable to distr= ibute the primary perk (copy of the film on disc) while the film is theatrical release.

=C2=A0

We post about this on social media all the time. The= one perk that is available is tickets to a showing near you and many donor= s have used this perk to date.

=C2=A0

You could have also just dropped me a line as well a= t any time, I don=E2=80=99t recall seeing something from you. We have over = 1100 donors and perk fulfillment will have to be done when it=E2=80=99s fea= sible and practical to do so.

=C2=A0

And is should be painfully clear from this, I=E2=80= =99m still heavily in debt and working on finishing the film. Perks are typ= ically distributed for a project when its complete, not during production.<= u>


Stephen

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From: After Effects Mail List <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
Sent: Monday, January 6, 2020 11:21 PM
To: After Effects Mail List <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
Subject: Re: [AE] Semi OT - call for volunteers on Mother of All Ren= ders Part Deux

=C2=A0

Hey Stephen, just thought it was worth mentioning he= re that despite rendering on that original project on one of my machines fo= r over a month, and contributing a week of my personal time developing an a= nimation for the film, never saw one scrap of any promised =E2=80=9Cbenefits=E2=80=9D, =E2=80=9Cdonor points=E2= =80=9D or =E2=80=9Cprizes=E2=80=9D=C2=A0

=C2=A0

So, folks, keep that in mind.=C2=A0

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On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 8:35 PM Stephen van Vuuren &l= t;AE-List@medi= a-motion.tv> wrote:

A number of folks here helped with Part one of this = After Effects monster render a couple of years ago. We are doing it again. = And this time, instead of 5.6K 24fps, it=E2=80=99s 8K square at 30fps or over 4 times as many pixels.

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Worse yet, it only runs in AE 2020 on a machine with= minimum 8 threads, 32GB RAM, 8 GB GPU. =C2=A0

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2019/2019 version are unstable and twice as slow so = no go. We are offering before donor points, plus this time prizes for faste= st render and most frames rendered.

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Full details here: https://www.insaturnsrings.com/post/we-feel-the-need-for-speed-call-for-ren= der-machine-volunteers

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Please share with like-minded folks.

=C2=A0

Best,

=C2=A0

stephen van vuu= ren

336.202.4777

=C2=A0

http://www.insaturnsrings.com/<= u>

http://www.sv2dcp.com/

http://www.sv2studios.com/

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A film is =E2= =80=93 or should be =E2=80=93 more like music than like fiction. It should = be a progression of moods and feelings. The theme, what=E2=80=99s behind th= e emotion, the meaning, all that comes later.

=E2=80=93Stanle= y Kubrick

=C2=A0

From: After Effects Mail List <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
Sent: Friday, January 3, 2020 4:53 PM
To: After Effects Mail List <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
Subject: Re: [AE] To Catalina or not Catalina?

=C2=A0

Thanks all. From these and general reports online, e= ven though now is a convenient time to go Catalina I=E2=80=99m going to han= g back.

=C2=A0

Best,

=C2=A0

stephen van vuu= ren

336.202.4777

=C2=A0

http://www.insaturnsrings.com/<= u>

http://www.sv2dcp.com/

http://www.sv2studios.com/

=C2=A0

A film is =E2= =80=93 or should be =E2=80=93 more like music than like fiction. It should = be a progression of moods and feelings. The theme, what=E2=80=99s behind th= e emotion, the meaning, all that comes later.

=E2=80=93Stanle= y Kubrick

=C2=A0

From: After Effects Mail List <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
Sent: Friday, January 3, 2020 4:44 PM
To: After Effects Mail List <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
Subject: Re: [AE] To Catalina or not Catalina?

=C2=A0

So far, Word and Excel 2016 are working fine on my M= acPro running 10.15.2.

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I=E2=80=99m disappointed in some of what I=E2=80=99v= e experienced in Premiere. =C2=A0I=E2=80=99ve n= oticed that some third-party effects that were accelerated on my 2012 MacPr= o with Titan X CUDA are not even close to parity or better on the AMD card.=C2=A0= That=E2=80=99s sad.=C2=A0 Colorista IV is super slow to render, and laggy = on the interface that has icons that disappear.

=C2=A0

Ae seems fine, but I haven=E2=80=99t done that much = with it.=C2=A0 Most of my plugs that worked on High Sierra work on Catalina= , and only a few were rewritten or updated for it.=C2=A0 The new Red Giant management software lost several of my authorizations, and won=E2=80= =99t let me get authorized until they all return from a long holiday.

=C2=A0

You need to find a replacement for QT Player/Pro 7.= =C2=A0 I=E2=80=99m using VLC as the default app for .mov and .mp4, etc.<= /u>

=C2=A0

My general advice is to run Mojave if it=E2=80=99s a= n option.=C2=A0 I don=E2=80=99t trust any OSX below 10.x.5.=C2=A0 But, I ha= d no choice.=C2=A0 I=E2=80=99m a reluctant adopter.

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On Jan 3, 2020, at 1:45 PM, Stephen van Vuuren <<= a href=3D"mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv" target=3D"_blank">AE-List@media-m= otion.tv> wrote:

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So who has taken the plunge, especially MacBook Pro = users? I primarily use FCPx and Adobe Suite plus MS Office on my MacBook Pr= o. I did have a lot of music apps but moved most of that except Logic and Garageband which I barely use to Windows 10 box for = several reasons (very slow Catalina support, internal SSD space for samples= etc.).

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Teddy Gage

President

Shotgun Inc.

360 VR | MOGRAPH | VFX

BKLYN NY 11215

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