From: "Robert & Jenny" Received: from mail-pl1-f173.google.com ([209.85.214.173] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.0) with ESMTPS id 7502385 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 05 Feb 2020 01:48:07 +0100 Received: by mail-pl1-f173.google.com with SMTP id ay11so134305plb.0 for ; Tue, 04 Feb 2020 16:48:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-language; bh=gS5ubeJWl6GpazwREXvkCymi9u+d8clrRo32/idLJWI=; b=LaDi76hHYtYTdHuCKFKQq5TuHYokMdUKaA9vf+60Mzc1JRb4PPAoi8DQ9gxF2455sT ug6EhSrJLwIiO6eyooytavDGCfbUmYvFdnAFbMLg+4R/oO2HSgLU3xo3NEwfTbHgRjaM E31JzZpHT7lcLr0CIez73TO0VK4H+KCjscoxxlj6qXBNg4Bwc2/oq2TWxtIP7DHpTt0f LMPGiHwjCN/3Y2C0Ui8QPm92WK6hmfJEYQJzl8+I6jJMhK1I/3ZUVW3cpSx35ZB+J4kY ebAqw7+uXG64yhTGkE2ZToX27eHITz/Z+HaU/MnQoq/nv+8/uNYGDuZHEoWpGHv+8c4K zsIw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language; bh=gS5ubeJWl6GpazwREXvkCymi9u+d8clrRo32/idLJWI=; b=JQKgmyvf5wlRNJh3xpLAJfkDAn180ct6ResHrpadhOPvMiuTzjjGckwHVW9MmJWlhw StAeRN01RVTC7WLQ5Mcet/ImMU+hzjU5h71iZTT9dcgCL9X0dPiFl0mSV1t8Gkr6fYFE KkQcaeZr1X7qjzaMeehxmmeRxz+/MFwtxeH9o8GNqqzXpephGtdvI4VvF5aCydgOPvih NqegLepsihX1g5IARoqwm/SxYoLTO4Sww9URg34On7k6iRORVNzZUId0jULKytxZcaJP 8Xq50DT1+2jLeGq1IvzY2izhjsGLXWZ9DR1w2VQGuZMknjkjbDVpK3WFkWQU4BBFpTqP 10Ew== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWKM44sO0tLkohpAG56Yaq+a7MKwrsXRKrOHPj4PWiTHRKcRsJ9 3TkO4+ifMzzeFzRNPQrEz+t0pttr X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxcqsTBwJgQIgtJNH1H0J629ASbiyvO9FXxd1Hh5/zON+N9vymK5KhkESd8zYN4ugnZq3ZSbQ== X-Received: by 2002:a17:90a:7307:: with SMTP id m7mr2379490pjk.75.1580863684566; Tue, 04 Feb 2020 16:48:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from [192.168.16.10] (24-113-222-211.wavecable.com. [24.113.222.211]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id u1sm25663276pfn.133.2020.02.04.16.48.03 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 04 Feb 2020 16:48:03 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [AE] Keyframe smoothness To: After Effects Mail List References: Message-ID: Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2020 16:48:02 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.4.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------F9DB7724F3D5E97D37E7D892" Content-Language: en-US This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------F9DB7724F3D5E97D37E7D892 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Is there any reason why you aren't using the bulge plugin, placing the center a tad under the mustache, cranking up the power with some taper on it and keyframing the center to move from left to right?     - Robert H On 2/4/2020 4:42 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk wrote: > Thanks Rachel, > > To better understand on the "not enough transform points", can you > elaborate?  Since that used Mesh Warp, are you suggest adding more > rows and columns?  (2 and 8 now). > > Eric > > On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 7:24 PM Rachel Max > wrote: > > Hi Eric - I’m just catching up here but my opinion is you don’t > have enough transform points (pos x, y and rotation) to make this > look realistic and timing is off - should be faster. > > You don’t need fancy plugins for this. > > Compositing might also need some thought. > > Keep at it - Rachel > > > >> On Feb 4, 2020, at 11:55 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk >> > wrote: >> >>  >> For those still tracking this, here is a very crude snippet of >> what I'm doing.  I just wanted to see if I could do the effect >> note in Doritos Commercial with Sam Elliott. >> >> As you can see, the smoothness is horrid.  I've tried every >> suggestion so far here and it is still very jumpy. >> >> https://youtu.be/pLyZLqr-hVw >> >> >> >> On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 5:14 PM jpcurtis > > wrote: >> >> I don’t have that effect.  It looks like it could be useful >> for warping your mustache. There are a few tutorials on >> aescripts on how to work it. >> >> >>> On Feb 4, 2020, at 3:44 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk >>> > >>> wrote: >>> >>> Thanks Curtis. I actually have that.  Would that do it? >>> Never have used it yet. >>> >>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2020, 22:46 jpcurtis >> > wrote: >>> >>> Something like this? >>> >>> https://aescripts.com/bao-layer-sculptor/ >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Feb 3, 2020, at 8:48 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk >>>> >>> > wrote: >>>> >>>> That's exactly what I began with. :) but then it wasnt >>>> smooth so might have to try that again. >>>> >>>> I wish there was a way to use a mask as a path except >>>> path but keep the object static and just morph with a >>>> curved mask. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2020, 21:45 jpcurtis >>>> >>> > wrote: >>>> >>>> Puppet Tool? >>>> >>>> > On Feb 3, 2020, at 7:15 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk >>>> >>> > wrote: >>>> > >>>> > Also, i suppose while I'm asking, any thoughts on >>>> best way TO animate? I'm using mesh warp to animate >>>> the mustache right now. >>>> \\. >>>> +---End of message---+ >>>> To unsubscribe send any message to >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> * >> *Eric D. 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Is there any reason why you aren't using the bulge plugin, placing the center a tad under the mustache, cranking up the power with some taper on it and keyframing the center to move from left to right?

    - Robert H

On 2/4/2020 4:42 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk wrote:
Thanks Rachel,

To better understand on the "not enough transform points", can you elaborate?  Since that used Mesh Warp, are you suggest adding more rows and columns?  (2 and 8 now).

Eric

On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 7:24 PM Rachel Max <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
Hi Eric - I’m just catching up here but my opinion is you don’t have enough transform points (pos x, y and rotation) to make this look realistic and timing is off - should be faster.

You don’t need fancy plugins for this.

Compositing might also need some thought.

Keep at it - Rachel



On Feb 4, 2020, at 11:55 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:


For those still tracking this, here is a very crude snippet of what I'm doing.  I just wanted to see if I could do the effect note in Doritos Commercial with Sam Elliott.

As you can see, the smoothness is horrid.  I've tried every suggestion so far here and it is still very jumpy.




On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 5:14 PM jpcurtis <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
I don’t have that effect.  It looks like it could be useful for warping your mustache.  There are a few tutorials on aescripts on how to work it.


On Feb 4, 2020, at 3:44 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

Thanks Curtis. I actually have that.  Would that do it? Never have used it yet. 

On Mon, Feb 3, 2020, 22:46 jpcurtis <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
Something like this?




On Feb 3, 2020, at 8:48 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

That's exactly what I began with.  :) but then it wasnt smooth so might have to try that again.

I wish there was a way to use a mask as a path except path but keep the object static and just morph with a curved mask.



On Mon, Feb 3, 2020, 21:45 jpcurtis <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
Puppet Tool?

> On Feb 3, 2020, at 7:15 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
>
> Also, i suppose while I'm asking, any thoughts on best way TO animate? I'm using mesh warp to animate the mustache right now.
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