From: "Robert & Jenny" Received: from mail-pj1-f43.google.com ([209.85.216.43] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.0) with ESMTPS id 7502395 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 05 Feb 2020 02:01:52 +0100 Received: by mail-pj1-f43.google.com with SMTP id n96so201419pjc.3 for ; Tue, 04 Feb 2020 17:01:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-language; bh=esqzm5gx3sNNfHLznv3OjlSROysGM+ddz6SCelCpJzA=; b=WC+Ru9G13djtRVMh57nVu9K+eCfrVrAu7DwY3hEF/lySiSs1XIl9tfQZFHLNSD8uFh Bc8z7FGIkdt3mi7isE8LQkDGhPqfYIBWXAluOgbnGi69m1crRW2RdslcuBFAqf8OWEIX Hpp6iLjxYofTxPCETCVOyy+zioZlV2oip/4tWefKcEsbrIWKJzPaqUAOcD69LakVyXFN JarAokzHioAcTDHFSOpeeqHfly9tKyxBzv2tAh0rTX7pk4fJftazLiVRVzXiL6r762jf mJK3nRGhfFC28cMb04UNbKDTkSm/v2idzkHb/5nMSV2tF3fzNtw8QGte4IO8ufJ32Hfb kBVg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language; bh=esqzm5gx3sNNfHLznv3OjlSROysGM+ddz6SCelCpJzA=; b=jBkyAzBDmzmbos4pZ8+Rn5BFyDAMnwJo/hfx3VUFrgpH0/wdXwHkbORkjpGJL1krS7 n55XegXr60bfvJmtymUDr0+HPXYIa7VxlAnBaxPaWIzyZuLVoQwN1xh49C26nTuf3CNs TlTRSGq1LkxaiHMVi3f6cI7Eyog4eaaeuyEg4mL92ZfOCBemcYgUyeZxWP6MY/lmyp7v uA5Qap7zyXJtrm7XkbzF7HecJHAynQwubqWl+b5nTJMBk8j3stM3DfcbE9EA3kFxgKGC AdHwvUFW9lS1RMcg8APZYX0kQtamAkq4iDCZelZJSdbV2HiOmnsGBcfZMB3oEenWzHOZ /gog== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUFb8ob2jo4z7X/r8wlCCl8647e70xolOqctq/m+vMrxtGhW4TV vg4D/tRyO3vg5zzGorHrOOe6MvOQ X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxhNfSNhtXDn4pg6EMGAu8c/LrjOpYHLgtIfE3IFIvwB9yKrPxuaSCwnLyoMaI1sY3m6hgPlg== X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:aa45:: with SMTP id c5mr13467195plr.113.1580864510094; Tue, 04 Feb 2020 17:01:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from [192.168.16.10] (24-113-222-211.wavecable.com. [24.113.222.211]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id gc1sm4783895pjb.20.2020.02.04.17.01.49 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 04 Feb 2020 17:01:49 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [AE] Keyframe smoothness To: After Effects Mail List References: Message-ID: <2cf04eaa-3915-e9d1-bc13-f61ca9ebbf96@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2020 17:01:48 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.4.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------906DD1BEB09A6B647061DB11" Content-Language: en-US This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------906DD1BEB09A6B647061DB11 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hahahaha, If that doesn't work you can give a displacement map precomp a try as well. Might have some better results :).     - Robert H On 2/4/2020 4:59 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk wrote: > Well Robert, > > The only reason for not using that is not THINKING of it. :)  I'll > check that out too. > > Eric > > On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 7:48 PM Robert & Jenny > wrote: > > Is there any reason why you aren't using the bulge plugin, placing > the center a tad under the mustache, cranking up the power with > some taper on it and keyframing the center to move from left to right? > >     - Robert H > > On 2/4/2020 4:42 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk wrote: >> Thanks Rachel, >> >> To better understand on the "not enough transform points", can >> you elaborate?  Since that used Mesh Warp, are you suggest adding >> more rows and columns? (2 and 8 now). >> >> Eric >> >> On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 7:24 PM Rachel Max >> > wrote: >> >> Hi Eric - I’m just catching up here but my opinion is you >> don’t have enough transform points (pos x, y and rotation) to >> make this look realistic and timing is off - should be faster. >> >> You don’t need fancy plugins for this. >> >> Compositing might also need some thought. >> >> Keep at it - Rachel >> >> >> >>> On Feb 4, 2020, at 11:55 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk >>> > >>> wrote: >>> >>>  >>> For those still tracking this, here is a very crude snippet >>> of what I'm doing.  I just wanted to see if I could do the >>> effect note in Doritos Commercial with Sam Elliott. >>> >>> As you can see, the smoothness is horrid.  I've tried every >>> suggestion so far here and it is still very jumpy. >>> >>> https://youtu.be/pLyZLqr-hVw >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 5:14 PM jpcurtis >>> > >>> wrote: >>> >>> I don’t have that effect.  It looks like it could be >>> useful for warping your mustache.  There are a few >>> tutorials on aescripts on how to work it. >>> >>> >>>> On Feb 4, 2020, at 3:44 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk >>>> >>> > wrote: >>>> >>>> Thanks Curtis. I actually have that.  Would that do it? >>>> Never have used it yet. >>>> >>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2020, 22:46 jpcurtis >>>> >>> > wrote: >>>> >>>> Something like this? >>>> >>>> https://aescripts.com/bao-layer-sculptor/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Feb 3, 2020, at 8:48 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk >>>>> >>>> > wrote: >>>>> >>>>> That's exactly what I began with. :) but then it >>>>> wasnt smooth so might have to try that again. >>>>> >>>>> I wish there was a way to use a mask as a path >>>>> except path but keep the object static and just >>>>> morph with a curved mask. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2020, 21:45 jpcurtis >>>>> >>>> > wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Puppet Tool? >>>>> >>>>> > On Feb 3, 2020, at 7:15 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk >>>>> >>>> > wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > Also, i suppose while I'm asking, any >>>>> thoughts on best way TO animate? I'm using >>>>> mesh warp to animate the mustache right now. >>>>> \\. >>>>> +---End of message---+ >>>>> To unsubscribe send any message to >>>>> >>>> > >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> * >>> *Eric D. Kirk | **Kirk Productions* >>> *VFX for Kirk Productions* >>> *443.206.1347* >>> *www.kirkproductions.com >>> kirkproductions@gmail.com * >>> *YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/kirkeric* >>> *IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/* >>> ** >>> * >>> ** >> >> >> >> -- >> * >> *Eric D. Kirk | **Kirk Productions* >> *VFX for Kirk Productions* >> *443.206.1347* >> *www.kirkproductions.com >> kirkproductions@gmail.com * >> *YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/kirkeric* >> *IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/* >> ** >> * >> ** > > > > -- > * > *Eric D. Kirk | **Kirk Productions* > *VFX for Kirk Productions* > *443.206.1347* > *www.kirkproductions.com > kirkproductions@gmail.com * > *YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/kirkeric* > *IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/* > ** > * > ** --------------906DD1BEB09A6B647061DB11 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Hahahaha, If that doesn't work you can give a displacement map precomp a try as well. Might have some better results :).

    - Robert H

On 2/4/2020 4:59 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk wrote:
Well Robert,

The only reason for not using that is not THINKING of it. :)  I'll check that out too.

Eric

On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 7:48 PM Robert & Jenny <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

Is there any reason why you aren't using the bulge plugin, placing the center a tad under the mustache, cranking up the power with some taper on it and keyframing the center to move from left to right?

    - Robert H

On 2/4/2020 4:42 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk wrote:
Thanks Rachel,

To better understand on the "not enough transform points", can you elaborate?  Since that used Mesh Warp, are you suggest adding more rows and columns?  (2 and 8 now).

Eric

On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 7:24 PM Rachel Max <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
Hi Eric - I’m just catching up here but my opinion is you don’t have enough transform points (pos x, y and rotation) to make this look realistic and timing is off - should be faster.

You don’t need fancy plugins for this.

Compositing might also need some thought.

Keep at it - Rachel



On Feb 4, 2020, at 11:55 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:


For those still tracking this, here is a very crude snippet of what I'm doing.  I just wanted to see if I could do the effect note in Doritos Commercial with Sam Elliott.

As you can see, the smoothness is horrid.  I've tried every suggestion so far here and it is still very jumpy.




On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 5:14 PM jpcurtis <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
I don’t have that effect.  It looks like it could be useful for warping your mustache.  There are a few tutorials on aescripts on how to work it.


On Feb 4, 2020, at 3:44 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

Thanks Curtis. I actually have that.  Would that do it? Never have used it yet. 

On Mon, Feb 3, 2020, 22:46 jpcurtis <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
Something like this?




On Feb 3, 2020, at 8:48 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

That's exactly what I began with.  :) but then it wasnt smooth so might have to try that again.

I wish there was a way to use a mask as a path except path but keep the object static and just morph with a curved mask.



On Mon, Feb 3, 2020, 21:45 jpcurtis <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
Puppet Tool?

> On Feb 3, 2020, at 7:15 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
>
> Also, i suppose while I'm asking, any thoughts on best way TO animate? I'm using mesh warp to animate the mustache right now.
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