From: "Mr. Eric D. 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I will look at adding more key frames and adjusting that mesh. Eric On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 5:21 AM Rachel Max wrote: > Hi Eric - yes - I suggest adding more keyframes and more rows and columns > in mesh warp. > > I feel it would work better if it were faster - like 2x as fast. > > Then the little smile would happen after the funny moustache thing. > > I think I read you tried the puppet tool already but given the same task, > I would probably use the puppet tool. > > Best, > Rachel > > > > On Feb 5, 2020, at 12:42 AM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk > wrote: > > Thanks Rachel, > > To better understand on the "not enough transform points", can you > elaborate? Since that used Mesh Warp, are you suggest adding more rows a= nd > columns? (2 and 8 now). > > Eric > > On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 7:24 PM Rachel Max wrote= : > >> Hi Eric - I=E2=80=99m just catching up here but my opinion is you don=E2= =80=99t have >> enough transform points (pos x, y and rotation) to make this look realis= tic >> and timing is off - should be faster. >> >> You don=E2=80=99t need fancy plugins for this. >> >> Compositing might also need some thought. >> >> Keep at it - Rachel >> >> >> >> On Feb 4, 2020, at 11:55 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk >> wrote: >> >> =EF=BB=BF >> For those still tracking this, here is a very crude snippet of what I'm >> doing. I just wanted to see if I could do the effect note in Doritos >> Commercial with Sam Elliott. >> >> As you can see, the smoothness is horrid. I've tried every suggestion s= o >> far here and it is still very jumpy. >> >> https://youtu.be/pLyZLqr-hVw >> >> >> >> On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 5:14 PM jpcurtis wrote: >> >>> I don=E2=80=99t have that effect. It looks like it could be useful for= warping >>> your mustache. There are a few tutorials on aescripts on how to work i= t. >>> >>> >>> On Feb 4, 2020, at 3:44 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk >>> wrote: >>> >>> Thanks Curtis. I actually have that. Would that do it? Never have used >>> it yet. >>> >>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2020, 22:46 jpcurtis wrote: >>> >>>> Something like this? >>>> >>>> https://aescripts.com/bao-layer-sculptor/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Feb 3, 2020, at 8:48 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> That's exactly what I began with. :) but then it wasnt smooth so migh= t >>>> have to try that again. >>>> >>>> I wish there was a way to use a mask as a path except path but keep th= e >>>> object static and just morph with a curved mask. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2020, 21:45 jpcurtis wrote: >>>> >>>>> Puppet Tool? >>>>> >>>>> > On Feb 3, 2020, at 7:15 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk < >>>>> AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > Also, i suppose while I'm asking, any thoughts on best way TO >>>>> animate? I'm using mesh warp to animate the mustache right now. >>>>> \\. >>>>> +---End of message---+ >>>>> To unsubscribe send any message to >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> -- >> >> >> *Eric D. Kirk | Kirk ProductionsVFX for Kirk >> Productions443.206.1347www.kirkproductions.com >> kirkproductions@gmail.com >> YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/kirkeri= c >> IMDB: >> http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ * >> >> >> > > -- > > > *Eric D. Kirk | Kirk ProductionsVFX for Kirk > Productions443.206.1347www.kirkproductions.com > kirkproductions@gmail.com > YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/kirkeric > IMDB: > http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ = * > > > > --=20 *Eric D. Kirk | Kirk ProductionsVFX for Kirk Productions443.206.1347www.kirkproductions.com kirkproductions@gmail.com YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/kirkeric IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ * --000000000000bba15d059dd7a7a0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Rachel,

Thanks for the addit= ional information.=C2=A0 I will look at adding more key frames and adjustin= g that mesh.

Eric

On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at = 5:21 AM Rachel Max <AE-List@m= edia-motion.tv> wrote:
Hi Eric - yes - I suggest adding more keyframes and more r= ows and columns in mesh warp.=C2=A0

I feel it would= work better if it were faster - like 2x as fast.

= Then the little smile would happen after the funny moustache thing.

I think I read you tried the puppet tool already but give= n the same task, I would probably use the puppet tool.

=
Best,
Rachel



On Feb 5, 2020, at 12:42 AM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk <AE-List@media-mot= ion.tv> wrote:

Thank= s Rachel,

To better understand on = the "not enough transform points", can you elaborate?=C2=A0 Since= that used Mesh Warp, are you suggest adding more rows and columns?=C2=A0 (= 2 and 8 now).

Eric

On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 7:24 PM R= achel Max <= AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
Hi Eric - I=E2=80=99m just catching up here but = my opinion is you don=E2=80=99t have enough transform points (pos x, y and = rotation) to make this look realistic and timing is off - should be faster.=

You don=E2=80=99t need fa= ncy plugins for this.

Comp= ositing might also need some thought.

Keep at it - Rachel



On Feb 4, 20= 20, at 11:55 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

=EF=BB=BF
For those still tracking this, here is a very crude snippet o= f what I'm doing.=C2=A0 I just wanted to see if I could do the effect n= ote in Doritos Commercial with Sam Elliott.

As= you can see, the smoothness is horrid.=C2=A0 I've tried every suggesti= on so far here and it is still very jumpy.




On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 5:1= 4 PM jpcurtis <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
I= don=E2=80=99t have that effect.=C2=A0 It looks like it could be useful for= warping your mustache.=C2=A0 There are a few tutorials on aescripts on how= to work it.


On F= eb 4, 2020, at 3:44 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
=
Thanks Curtis. I actually have that.=C2=A0 = Would that do it? Never have used it yet.=C2=A0

On Mon, Feb 3, 2020, 22:46 jpc= urtis <AE-L= ist@media-motion.tv> wrote:
Something= like this?




On Feb 3, 2020, at 8:48 PM, Mr. Eric D. K= irk <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

That's exactly what I began with.=C2=A0 :) but then it w= asnt smooth so might have to try that again.

I wish there was a way to use a mask as a path except = path but keep the object static and just morph with a curved mask.



On Mon, Feb 3, 2020, = 21:45 jpcurtis <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
Puppet Tool?

> On Feb 3, 2020, at 7:15 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk <AE-Li= st@media-motion.tv> wrote:
>
> Also, i suppose while I'm asking, any thoughts on best way TO anim= ate? I'm using mesh warp to animate the mustache right now.
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